Your right! This isn't over with. Major fines no question. Plus several major suspentions.
Dschebig
Mon, 09/23/2013 - 1:38pm
Penalty Summary
1st Period
NONE
2nd Period
02:19
TOR
T. Bodie
Fighting - 5 min against D. Bagnall
02:19
BUF
D. Bagnall
Fighting - 5 min against T. Bodie
17:47
TOR
J. Colborne
Cross checking - 2 min against J. McBain
19:58
BUF
M. Foligno
Roughing - 2 min against C. Ashton
19:58
TOR
C. Ashton
Delaying Game - Smothering puck - 2 min
3rd Period
00:52
BUF
B. McNabb
Tripping - 2 min against N. Kadri
07:14
TOR
J. van Riemsdyk
Interference - Goalkeeper - 2 min against R. Miller
10:01
TOR
J. Devane
Fighting - 5 min against C. Tropp
10:01
BUF
C. Tropp
Fighting - 5 min against J. Devane
10:01
TOR
A. MacWilliam
Fighting - 5 min against M. Zigomanis
10:01
TOR
T. Bozak
Fighting - 5 min against C. Ruhwedel
10:01
TOR
J. Bernier
Fighting - 5 min against R. Miller
10:01
TOR
T. Brennan
Fighting - 5 min against D. Bagnall
10:01
BUF
B. Flynn
Fighting - 5 min against C. Ashton
10:01
BUF
M. Zigomanis
Fighting - 5 min against A. MacWilliam
10:01
BUF
C. Ruhwedel
Fighting - 5 min against T. Bozak
10:01
BUF
J. Scott
Fighting - 5 min against D. Clarkson
10:01
BUF
R. Miller
Fighting - 5 min against J. Bernier
10:01
TOR
D. Clarkson
Leaving player's/penalty bench - 10 min
10:01
BUF
D. Bagnall
Fighting - 5 min against T. Brennan
10:01
TOR
C. Ashton
Fighting - 5 min against D. Bagnall
10:01
BUF
J. Scott served by M. Grigorenko Instigator - 2 min against P. Kessel
10:01
TOR
J. Bernier
Goalie leave crease - 2 min against R. Miller
10:01
BUF
R. Miller
Goalie leave crease - 2 min
10:01
BUF
J. Scott
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
BUF
J. Scott
Game misconduct - 10 min against P. Kessel
10:01
TOR
C. Ashton
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
TOR
T. Bozak
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
TOR
T. Brennan
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
TOR
A. MacWilliam
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
TOR
J. Bernier
Game misconduct - 10 min
10:01
BUF
D. Bagnall
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
BUF
M. Zigomanis
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
BUF
B. Flynn
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
BUF
R. Miller
Game misconduct - 10 min against J. Bernier
10:01
BUF
C. Ruhwedel
Misconduct - 10 min
10:01
TOR
P. Kessel
Match penalty - 10 min against J. Scott
11:22
TOR
J. Liles
Roughing - 2 min against C. Hodgson
13:33
BUF
J. Armia
Hooking - 2 min against N. Kadri
15:48
TOR
J. van Riemsdyk
Roughing - 2 min against B. McNabb
15:48
BUF
B. McNabb
Roughing - 2 min against J. van Riemsdyk
Alan
Mon, 09/23/2013 - 2:22pm
I'm sure you and Dschebig are correct.
The one thing that has always surprised me is how few times a player gets cut by a skate during a line brawl and/or bench clearing brawl. Between the fighters flailing away, the linesmen trying to keep order, and the bodies moving unpredictably and suddenly, the one thing they all have in common are the "razor blades" they are standing on.
I just watched a Norfolk-Lowell end of period brawl from 2004, and those guys were just everywhere with players contorted and physically out of control. A linesman did twist a knee trying to break it up and had to be helped off the ice.
DSchebig
Mon, 09/23/2013 - 6:24pm
Alan,
I would only be guessing but Clarkson from Toronto should get at least 10 games for leaving the bench. Kessel could get that many for his slashing since he did it twice. The video appears to be with intent to injure. I have found anything that has been handed down from the NHL yet. Maybe Blake can update us.
Hannah Montana
Mon, 09/23/2013 - 6:36pm
Next game they will be cracking skulls.
Dschebig needs two use spel chick
Mike From Toronto
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:08am
Scott and Kessel apparently played against each other earlier in their hockey careers. I can't find out where. College?
At any rate, if you watch the very beginning Phil made a big mistake. He shoud keep two hands on the stick and keep it on this ice, ignoring the challenge. It's done all the time.
What Phil does is raise his stick and his elbow toward the other guy. It is the invitation an enforcer is looking for. No one in this area would see it that way but it looks very clear to me.
What follows is just stupid right through to the post game comments by the coaches.
Coach Carlyle took the Leafs from 22nd in PIM two years ago to number one in that category last year. So he better be prepared for some pressure on his "skill" guys.
Dschebig
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:21am
Clarkson received 10 games for leaving the bench from the NHL. I still haven't seen any suspension for Kessell and I think there should be.
gibehcsD
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 9:06pm
Isn't any fight performed with intent to injure. They should all get intent to injure. "Why did you punch that guy in the head" ..... "well it certainly wasn't to injure him" .....
Blake Sebring
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 9:08pm
Amen.
Dschebig
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 10:15am
I see today the Buffalo coach was fined for not controlling his bench.
No dollar amount was given.
A fight is one thing and while violent swinging or chopping with the stick as a weapon is another.
Crisis of Confidence
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 1:12pm
hockey fights include violent swinging, so try again "A fight is one thing and while violent swinging...."
Violently swinging ones arms at anothers head is no different than violently swinging a stick at someone.
Dschebig
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 2:49pm
You guys win! But I know the difference between apples and bananas! Besides one is red and the other yellow. Maybe I should say I know the difference between fruit and nuts or night and day!
Tom Vilsack
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 4:54pm
Golden Delicious Apples are Yellow
Violent swinging of apples, be they red or yellow, as a weapon, would definatley be intent to injure.
Most importantly, nuts on the ice can be very dangerous.
kyle hunt
Thu, 09/26/2013 - 6:01am
A couple thoughts, I don't know the slashes were violent, they weren't to his head, I'd rather have a slash to the leg pads than a punch to the face from that goon and I would wear a fine like a badge of honor if he came after me for nothing...Maybe he would think twice about it next time.
Comments
Your right! This isn't over with. Major fines no question. Plus several major suspentions.
Fighting - 5 min against D. Bagnall 02:19 BUF D. Bagnall
Fighting - 5 min against T. Bodie 17:47 TOR J. Colborne
Cross checking - 2 min against J. McBain 19:58 BUF M. Foligno
Roughing - 2 min against C. Ashton 19:58 TOR C. Ashton
Delaying Game - Smothering puck - 2 min 3rd Period 00:52 BUF B. McNabb
Tripping - 2 min against N. Kadri 07:14 TOR J. van Riemsdyk
Interference - Goalkeeper - 2 min against R. Miller 10:01 TOR J. Devane
Fighting - 5 min against C. Tropp 10:01 BUF C. Tropp
Fighting - 5 min against J. Devane 10:01 TOR A. MacWilliam
Fighting - 5 min against M. Zigomanis 10:01 TOR T. Bozak
Fighting - 5 min against C. Ruhwedel 10:01 TOR J. Bernier
Fighting - 5 min against R. Miller 10:01 TOR T. Brennan
Fighting - 5 min against D. Bagnall 10:01 BUF B. Flynn
Fighting - 5 min against C. Ashton 10:01 BUF M. Zigomanis
Fighting - 5 min against A. MacWilliam 10:01 BUF C. Ruhwedel
Fighting - 5 min against T. Bozak 10:01 BUF J. Scott
Fighting - 5 min against D. Clarkson 10:01 BUF R. Miller
Fighting - 5 min against J. Bernier 10:01 TOR D. Clarkson
Leaving player's/penalty bench - 10 min 10:01 BUF D. Bagnall
Fighting - 5 min against T. Brennan 10:01 TOR C. Ashton
Fighting - 5 min against D. Bagnall 10:01 BUF J. Scott served by M. Grigorenko Instigator - 2 min against P. Kessel 10:01 TOR J. Bernier
Goalie leave crease - 2 min against R. Miller 10:01 BUF R. Miller
Goalie leave crease - 2 min 10:01 BUF J. Scott
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 BUF J. Scott
Game misconduct - 10 min against P. Kessel 10:01 TOR C. Ashton
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 TOR T. Bozak
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 TOR T. Brennan
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 TOR A. MacWilliam
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 TOR J. Bernier
Game misconduct - 10 min 10:01 BUF D. Bagnall
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 BUF M. Zigomanis
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 BUF B. Flynn
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 BUF R. Miller
Game misconduct - 10 min against J. Bernier 10:01 BUF C. Ruhwedel
Misconduct - 10 min 10:01 TOR P. Kessel
Match penalty - 10 min against J. Scott 11:22 TOR J. Liles
Roughing - 2 min against C. Hodgson 13:33 BUF J. Armia
Hooking - 2 min against N. Kadri 15:48 TOR J. van Riemsdyk
Roughing - 2 min against B. McNabb 15:48 BUF B. McNabb
Roughing - 2 min against J. van Riemsdyk
I'm sure you and Dschebig are correct.
The one thing that has always surprised me is how few times a player gets cut by a skate during a line brawl and/or bench clearing brawl. Between the fighters flailing away, the linesmen trying to keep order, and the bodies moving unpredictably and suddenly, the one thing they all have in common are the "razor blades" they are standing on.
I just watched a Norfolk-Lowell end of period brawl from 2004, and those guys were just everywhere with players contorted and physically out of control. A linesman did twist a knee trying to break it up and had to be helped off the ice.
Alan,
I would only be guessing but Clarkson from Toronto should get at least 10 games for leaving the bench. Kessel could get that many for his slashing since he did it twice. The video appears to be with intent to injure. I have found anything that has been handed down from the NHL yet. Maybe Blake can update us.
Next game they will be cracking skulls.
Dschebig needs two use spel chick
Scott and Kessel apparently played against each other earlier in their hockey careers. I can't find out where. College?
At any rate, if you watch the very beginning Phil made a big mistake. He shoud keep two hands on the stick and keep it on this ice, ignoring the challenge. It's done all the time.
What Phil does is raise his stick and his elbow toward the other guy. It is the invitation an enforcer is looking for. No one in this area would see it that way but it looks very clear to me.
What follows is just stupid right through to the post game comments by the coaches.
Coach Carlyle took the Leafs from 22nd in PIM two years ago to number one in that category last year. So he better be prepared for some pressure on his "skill" guys.
Clarkson received 10 games for leaving the bench from the NHL. I still haven't seen any suspension for Kessell and I think there should be.
Isn't any fight performed with intent to injure. They should all get intent to injure. "Why did you punch that guy in the head" ..... "well it certainly wasn't to injure him" .....
Amen.
I see today the Buffalo coach was fined for not controlling his bench.
No dollar amount was given.
A fight is one thing and while violent swinging or chopping with the stick as a weapon is another.
hockey fights include violent swinging, so try again "A fight is one thing and while violent swinging...."
Violently swinging ones arms at anothers head is no different than violently swinging a stick at someone.
You guys win! But I know the difference between apples and bananas! Besides one is red and the other yellow. Maybe I should say I know the difference between fruit and nuts or night and day!
Golden Delicious Apples are Yellow
Violent swinging of apples, be they red or yellow, as a weapon, would definatley be intent to injure.
Most importantly, nuts on the ice can be very dangerous.
A couple thoughts, I don't know the slashes were violent, they weren't to his head, I'd rather have a slash to the leg pads than a punch to the face from that goon and I would wear a fine like a badge of honor if he came after me for nothing...Maybe he would think twice about it next time.