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Tailing the Komets

Experienced Evansville dominates Ks

Posted in: Komets


Hit Somebody!!!
Sat, 10/22/2011 - 10:58pm

Hit will not panic. One game. Bad game. Bad lines. I have a tweak of lines that will get them back in charge.

First....How is there an immigration issue if both players played preseason? And both players sat 10 rows behind me tonight? Confused? Any explanation?

Here is a fix:

Chaulk, Benne, Rizk
Smith, Chaumont, Apod
Leo, Schrock, Thorne

Milam, B Molle
Frankie, Starenky
Llewellyn, D Molle

Got to put the Rookies into better lines and situations rather than hanging them out to dry. Let them benefit from Veteran help.

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 11:11pm

Komets coach Al Sims said. ``We'll make sure that we're ready next week. We'll be a lot better next week.''

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 11:27pm

First of all, what a powerful shot Milam has WOW. He was the only one that played decent. Second, Benne was a waste of a good D-man. Not impressed with him at all. Shrocky and Apod were the only ones I saw with speed. I'm sure just first game nerves but they could have been competitive. I can see that against the icemen they are going to have to play aggresive and finish their checks. No more waiting around and see what happens. I still have good feelings about this season.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:33am



1. the K's did not check enough, get a body on people enough and did not get into the passing lanes...

2. The K's missed Starenky and his extra elbows, cross checks, and overall grit on the blueline.

3. The K's played too much on the perimeter and not enought in front of the net...

4. The K's need to get rid of the outlet to the redline pass... All it does is kill any momentum the forwards have going thru the neutral zone.

5. Thomas is not a forward...

6. You will not outwork the K's; but you can easily 'outsystem' them...

7. Burgee's garuantee's are about as good as a campaigning politician's... Please prophesize the K's demise....

8. Sgroi did not get a regular shift, he just yapped enough during the time he was on the ice to make it seem like he was out there alot more than he was...lol

9. K'e are 2-3 pieces and some time under rookies belts away from being dangerous. I really want to see this team with Thorne and Starenky in the lineup... A new system wouldnt hurt either...


Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:35am

BTW, the Icemen played VERY well in their own zown!

They had a stick, body, skate in every passing zone the K's tried to use last night and took advantage of all the K's dumb penalties...

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:42am

BTW (again), did I miss the great, special tribute to Tim Hoke last night????

If the 'tribute' was him calling Prokepec a peice of crap, then that was SAD.... They should have just left it to a moment of silence and moved on or did nothing at all...

just a fan
Sun, 10/23/2011 - 3:15am

FIRE SIMS!!! There's part of the problem.

Mr Snufflupugus
Sun, 10/23/2011 - 10:19am

Since warner can't be blamed I guess sims is the new target after one game. Absurd.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 10:24am

I'm not calling for Sims to get the axe after 1 game but he has to change his systems...Same system, same result.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 10:54am

Lets hope they got the gitters out last night and can move forward....

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 10:55am

I liked Smith & Milam.
Sgroi maked it for sure that the K's need a Heavyweight.
James DeLory quit hockey & went back to school.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 11:14am

Why even bring Warner into it? He didn't play, didn't contribute. He's irrelevant. Let's leave it that way.

How short is Al's leash?

Saying "we'll be ready next week." Tells us all that you didn't have your team ready for this week.

Kromm set the tone for his teams season. If they hold together without a lot of injuries to their aged squad, they'll be a contender.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 11:54am

I think we need to start a new tradition here in the Fort. If a team loses the season opener the coach gets canned. Heck, let's make that a league wide tradition, any coach anywhere who loses the season opener gets fired. Oh, wait, that would be half the coaches in the league getting fired the second day of the season..

I agree with a lot of JR's points and am disappointed they lost, but to start screaming for the coach to be fired based on one loss is, well like Snuff said, absurd.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 11:59am

Good call on the Tim Hoke tribute question. I was wondering the same thing.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:00pm

The displeasure with Sims stems from 70 games last season. It's not like he's coming off a Cup win. Last season stunk and people question is ability to coach a CHL team. His track record in the league is sub-par.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:09pm

Even the " Legends" went home early.

Things went so wrong Saturday night that even the "Broaster Boys" Gatling gun took a cue from the Komets offense and misfired during the second intermission. However, the gun had enough sense to retreat off the ice and not return. The komets should have taken a cue from the gun and done the same. You wouldn't have noticed if they did.

After two opening nights as members of the CHL, the Komets have played 6 periods in front of over 24,000 people, and have scored exactly 0 goals. Everyone knows, and will tell you, that last night was the first of 66 games. Eerily though, it sure reminds me of last season. Get throttled by Dayton in the first preseason game, come back home and win a close one against Dayton, then get clobbered in the home opener.

The Icemen beat the Komets in every possible way. Hustle, defense, and talent all seemed to be on the visitor's bench. The Icemen alays seemed to get to the loose pucks first, get back on defense, and passed the puck so well that they looked like they have been playing together for a long time. The Komets? Well, they looked like they were still making their first introductions with each other.

One team was playing professional hockey. The other looks as if they were playing a "pick up" game. Guess which was which.

Five different Icemen players scored goals. While one was named O'Connor, none were named Todd Robinson ( although he did have three assists).

The Komets were out-general managed and out-coached. Kromm put together his team under the same salary cap restraints as the Komets. They've put together a terrific blend of speed, skill, youth, and toughness. Each of these categories haunted the Komets during the game, especially in the third period when the Komets lost their composure and the "rough stuff" started. It was no match as the Icemen showed their superiority in that part of the game also.

One of our fellow bloggers has been pretty consistent calling for some "toughness". I have been calling for more scoring. Boy!! Did the lack of both show up last night.

Not all things were bad. Leo Thomas just missed a sure goal by missing an open net. Both Thomas and Bennefield went down to block hard shots. The Komets tried to stand up to the icemen with three third period fights. None were pretty, however. I am wondering if Brett Smith will get a one game suspension for getting a fighting instigator-game misconduct penalty. The only other good thing about last night was that I got great service in one of the beer lines.

Maybe the Icemen will turn out to be the class of the CHL this year. If that does happen maybe some of the sting of this outcome will be replaced some sort of understanding.

It was nice to see the "Legends" before the game.

Sadly, this was not a game that Legends are made from.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:10pm

Come down off the ledge, everybody. Yes, that was pretty hideous last night, but it's early. There have been some Ks championship teams that have had less than stellar starts. What happened last night had little to do with not having enough "toughness" or a "heavyweight". The E'ville GT made a few key saves (he didn't have to make many) and the Ks couldn't complete a pass to save their lives. If they're still playing this way in December, then I'll give up, but not before then. (BTW, when a team briefly has more than 5 skaters on the ice during a line change and the puck is nowhere near them, IT'S NOT "TOO MANY MEN ON THE ICE", SO STOP YELLING ABOUT IT!!!! WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SMARTER FANS THAN THAT!!)

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:33pm

Just a few of my observations from last nights game.

1. Evansville is much bigger and much more physical than we are. Blake, can you please, please, explain to me or ask someone why we can't have these guys on our team? Most other teams do and we seem to ALWAYS be at a big disadvantage physically. When we won our championships, we had a big talent advantage where we could get away with it. In the CHL, you need to have a complete team and that means having guys who can stand up to these 6-4 / 6-5 guys that other teams seem to have. I sure hope that we don't have to live with another year of asking our 5-10 Shrock to take on 6-5 guys like he did last night or depend on someone like Molle, who has had a total of 3 or 4 fights in 2 years to handle Sgroi. Please don't tell me that we are leaning on 1 guy, Starenky, to do it this year. It was embarrassing to sit and watch that. If it is Sim's decision to not have this element on the team then, in my opinion, it is time for him to go. The only place that he has had success is here during the UHL/IHL2 years. As someone else pointed out, he has had no success in this league.

2. The whole excuse of "well the guys just need time to gel" is getting old. Guess what? Every team in the league is in the same boat. Why aren't we prepared like them? I think you need to look at the coach and ask that question. "We'll be sure that we are ready next week"? Seriously? "We are not going to win games on our talent"? Really? So we are not physical or talented or fast? Who did we recruit this summer? Will this team have an identity at all?

3. Based on last night it appears that Evansville is big, physical, fast, and well coached. Somehow Kromm got his team ready for the first game; our opening night, in our building, in front of over 10k fans. Hmmmm.

I realize that it is only 1 game but it is obvious that we are once again behind the curve. Fort Wayne is supposedly one of the "premiere" places to play minor league hockey. Why can't we have "premiere" players playing here? Do they not want to play here? If so, why? Great fans, great building, great attendance...... hmmmm...

Mr Snufflupugus
Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:44pm

I guess I am an expert on everything but toughness. Toughness won't help the passing improve. Toughness won't help shots hit the net.
Three times guys dropped the gloves last night and I thought handled themselves quite well. Unless you are expecting the Komet player to stand over the guy he is fighting as the opponent is in a pool of blood none of the three fights were heavily sided for or against the Komets.

Coaching and playing together will help the timing and passing improve. One game down... next!!!

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:53pm

E-Ville kept their sticks on the ice and in the passing lanes while in the D-zone and that contributed as much to the K's lack of passing success as anything last night, IMO...

As much crap as Kromm takes here, he had his team ready to play regular season hockey last night. Sims said we will be ready next week....

As much as I wanted to see fresh faces on the roster this season, I wanted to see a scoring vet like Thinel, Robinson, Ulanski, McGrane, etc... to bring a fesh offensive prospective to this team...

It's one game, everyone is exactly right; but this team has a long way to go in a week to prepare for game #2. I like the potential this team shows and am very interested to see how far they progress over the next week and mature as a team over the next month...

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:55pm

I don't know, Ron.....didn't the Komets get a Too Many Men bench minor for what the refs perceived as a slow line change late in the 3rd? I guess it all depends on the referee's perspective. I agree, though...I do hate when people in the stands yell about "penalties", but sometimes they are right...

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:55pm


Since you are an expert on all matters other than toughness, why was Evansvilles passing, PP, teamwork, etc so much better than ours? Did they start practicing in July? Please don't tell me that it is just one game or they just got the bounces. Bottom line is that they assembled a good team and their coach had them ready for OUR home opener.

And you are correct in saying that you are not an expert in toughness.....Molle got handled very easily by Sgroi. There was no question about that. Shrock may have done better if he had a step stool.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:59pm

Sgroi made that fight look impressive; but him giving quick punches to the back of Molles head/shoulder pads doesnt constitute a butt whipping to me either....

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:11pm

Forget about "Saving the Whales" save a Komet and get rid of Schrock.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:22pm

I didn't say it was a butt whipping.....I said he handled him...aka knot allowing Molle to do anything in the fight. You don't have to bloody a guy or knock him out to win a fight. The fact is that when you don't have anyone on your team that is a physical threat that they have to eventually answer to, the other team will take liberties with your skill players. That is, and has been, part of the game....period.

However, the whole point of my post was that we were supposed to be a faster, grittier, hungrier team this year and it was embarrassing to get dominated in every aspect of the game on our home ice. All I want is a balanced team that can stand up for themselves.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:23pm

Sorry, should be "not" instead of "knot" in my first sentence.

It's Me
Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:30pm

So what is more important... winning a game or winning the fights?

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:43pm

Sgroi belongs in a zoo. And the ref who let him be on the ice with Molle should be sanctioned (or fed to him for dinner). The call on the preceding faceoff on Schrock led to that "fight", and JR1 you're right...Sgroi was fairly unimpressive in landing a bunch of non-damaging blows to his shoulders and back (for which I am truly glad). Another non-fighter on Evansville was Johnson, who had been running his mouth on-ice all evening, then when he cross-checked Rizk, definitely had nothing to show for his mouth.

I am very happy we did not sign Sgroi. We need Thorne's Visa issue (whatever that means) to be cleared up so we can have another tough guy, but I'd rather not have a one-note, skillless goon like Sgroi playing here in Fort Wayne. He may have seen a lot of ice time, yes. But he did not get a "regular shift". He could not complete a pass, and he did not know what the word "position" meant. I don't honestly think he walks upright. I strongly suspect they carved his stick out of a club, and I wonder what cave they signed him from.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 2:20pm

the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!!

Mr Snufflupugus
Sun, 10/23/2011 - 2:27pm

It WAS only one game. Talk to me by game 10. Let's see who is where by game 10, game 20 etc.

Sgroi is Sgroi... he has ALWAYS been more hype than substance. He can skate, can play "tough" and he could play for the Komets anytime and I wouldn't complain too much. But he didn't do much of anything that made any difference last night. Evansville would have won with or without him and Molle showed me something by standing up there and taking Sgroi on.

Sgroi can sound alot like Igor if you change the letters around.....