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Opening Arguments

House rules

Yes, gun-rights advocates can go too far. The Second Amendment does not trump property rights:

In 1987, Florida wisely affirmed personal freedom by letting law-abiding citizens get permits to carry concealed weapons. But this year, the legislature decided it was not enough to let licensees pack in public places. They also should be allowed to take their guns into private venues—even if the property owner objects.

The "take your guns to work" law says anyone with a conceal-carry permit has a legal right to keep his gun locked in his car in the company parking lot. Until recently, companies had the authority to make the rules on their own premises. But when it comes to guns, that freedom is defunct.

The National Rifle Association says any corporation that forbids firearms in its parking areas is violating the 2nd Amendment. That may sound like a promising argument, since the Supreme Court recently struck down a Washington, D.C., handgun ban as an infringement on the constitutional guarantee. It's not.

Robert Levy, the Cato Institute lawyer who participated in the successful challenge of the Washington ordinance, says the Florida law "has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment." The Constitution, he notes, is a limit on government power, not a constraint on what private individuals or corporations may do.

Of course, I would also argue that property owners have the right to say whether or not people can smoke on their property, too, and look how effective that argument has been lately. I'm afraid "my house, my rules" is destined to become one of those historical oddities like, oh, the 9th and 10th Amendments.


Harl Delos
Tue, 08/26/2008 - 11:29am


Larry Morris
Tue, 08/26/2008 - 1:01pm

The issue of handguns being allowed locked in your vehicle at work if the company will not let you carry on premises is not a simple property owner

Tue, 08/26/2008 - 1:41pm

Who is our government? That's right - We The People! Who did We The People BIND from infringing upon our natural and inalienable rights? That's right - We The People!

"The right of self-defence NEVER ceases. It is among the most sacred, and alike necessary to nations and to individuals."

- President James Monroe, Nov. 16, 1818 message to the U.S. House and Senate. [Journal of the Senate of the United States of America, November 17th, 1818.]

"We appealed to those of nature, and found them engraved on our hearts. . . . We established however some, although not all its important principles. The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent . . . . that it is THEIR RIGHT and DUTY to be AT ALL TIMES ARMED; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press."

- Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824 letter to Major John Cartwright. [The Writings of Thomas Jefferson,(Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.]

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed" means EXACTLY that which was written.

Harl Delos
Tue, 08/26/2008 - 2:56pm

But if the company I work for denies me the ability to lock the firearm in my vehicle while I

Larry Morris
Tue, 08/26/2008 - 3:42pm

"So instead of parking in their lot, park on the street, and walk to work from there."
Some choice, Harl, perhaps you've never parked a can in Houston - the choice I had was to park on the street and probably get the vehicle stolen, and the firearm with it - or not carry a firearm and park in the secured garage, ...

"If, after I

Harl Delos
Tue, 08/26/2008 - 10:14pm

Some choice, Harl, perhaps you

Larry Morris
Wed, 08/27/2008 - 3:48pm

Man, ... I give up again, ...

Harl Delos
Wed, 08/27/2008 - 6:13pm

The guy at the Portage Avenue WalMart was only charged with felony intimidation and trespassing - but then again, he was HONEST about it. He had his gun in a holster on his hip.

You want to be dishonest about it, and sneak up on your victims. And then you're outraged that someone might consider turning the tables on you?

Why do you think you're *special*?

Larry Morris
Thu, 08/28/2008 - 8:39am

How dare you call me dishonest - you pompous ass. I carry a concealed weapon because it's a legal way to level the playing field with all the other asses out there who refuse to obey the law and prey on us as victims.
Why don't you stay on your own blog - all you're doing here is chasing more people away from this one.

Harl Delos
Thu, 08/28/2008 - 9:55am


And the reason you conceal that gun?

tim zank
Thu, 08/28/2008 - 11:14am

Let it go Larry, it's a futile effort brother!