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Tailing the Komets

If you haven't had a chance yet...

... please check out Chad's championship highlights video. It is a true work of art and we're really proud of it at the paper. It's even more amazing considering he had no sleep because of a new baby. How his wife puts up wi

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Wed, 05/19/2010 - 1:48pm

Nice work, Chad!

Dave W.,
Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:20pm

Great work Chad. Would like a copy,

Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:44pm

That was awesome. If possible I would also like a copy.

Blake Sebring
Wed, 05/19/2010 - 5:16pm

Sorry, not going to be able to give or sell copies, but it will be posted permanently on our site.

Wed, 05/19/2010 - 5:19pm

I really like it

Wed, 05/19/2010 - 6:44pm

Will the Komets be anywhere signing autographs this week?

Blake Sebring
Wed, 05/19/2010 - 6:54pm

I haven't heard of anything. Mostly they are leaving town.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 5:45am

Anyone see the WANE story last night saying that the IHL is going to 5 vets?

OR.... will the Komets have 5 vets... in the ____HL?

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 6:40am

What's the logic behind the vet restrictions? Keeping costs down? Preventing one team who brings in lots of revenue from buying up all of the talent? Could salary caps be used to keep a team from getting all the talent without a vet limit, assuming the vets won't play for chicken feed just to win? Or is the vet limit out there because the salary cap is not enforced?

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 7:14am

RK-The salary cap is in fact to help keep salary costs manageable. I believe the ECHL & the CHL both have a vet limit of 4 per team. The salary cap is a HARD cap. It does not include the Coaches or the Office personel. The players may earn extra monies from personal appearances and outside activities. If in fact the IHL goes to 5 Veterans it would make a lot of common sense for several very good reasons. I found that most teams only had 5 or 6 vets when they submitted their lineup's before the game. They must indicate who are the Vets and who are the Rookies on those sheets. If they submitted 3 rookies they must play a man short. I think part of the reason signings must be approved by the league before they are announced is to in fact to varify they are with in the salary cap. Almost every team had more than 4 rookies. Some had as many as 7 or 8 rookies. Very few played with 7 vets. I hope that helps you and others understand a little bit better.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 7:34am

I may be mistaken on this and if I am, someone please correct me.

Somewhere it was pointed out to me that in the CHL goaltenders are not counted toward the vet limit. So, in essence, a team could have "veteran goaltenders" and still have their full complement of veteran skaters.

Maybe an easier way to have said that was that in the CHL the vet limit pertained only to the skaters.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 7:39am

Blake...great stories on the abuse that the cups take every year. I always find the history behind the hardware interesting. One thing I noticed and am very curious about is the story behind the cup this year...prehaps you know the answers or have the sources to obtain the answers. The previous two time the Komets won, the Cup had 6 tiers and the bowl on top. This year, the Cup has only 5 tiers and the bowl on top. The base is different...previously it was wood and you could see up into the cup from the bottom. This year, the base appears to be metal and is solid so you can't look up inside of it (which is the reason it froze to the ice). What was the reason behind the drastic alteration? Just some observations that I'm curious about and would love to hear the story behind it.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 9:29am

A couple of things that I thought were ironic as I watched the replay last night of the "Komet Game of the Week" with Tim Hoke, Randi Marcum, and Otto Boschet.

1) The winning goal on Opening Night in Dayton was scored on a perfect pass from P.C. Druin to Leo Thomas. The winning goal in Game 5 (last game for the year) was scored on a perfect pass from Leo Thomas to P.C. Druin.

2) Remember the last regular season game of the year? It was a 2-1 victory over Flint. Remember how excited the Flint players were after the loss? Yes, at that moment they knew that they had come from so far behind to make the playoffs. Still, it was real unusual to see a defeated team celebrate.

3) As that game ended, how many people would have honestly thought they were watching the potential finalists for the Turner Cup? Especially when both teams were behind 3 games to 1 game in their first series.

Speaking of the "Game of the Week" telecast, I would like to congratulate them on, what I thought, was the best telecast they have ever put together. Their commentary during the game was terrific, the interview with Bruce Boudreau was real entertaining and very informative ( easily the best interview of the year), and the camera work which included replays that were immediate were very "professionally done".

I was a little concerned by some of the comments they made about the bloggers as they kind of lumped everyone together. I hope that was not their intention because it wouldn't be fair.

The bloggers are all different ages, have had different life experiences, and come from different Komet eras. Lots of opinions because those three categories alone would guarantee that. Some are very informed, some are misinformed, and others are just trying to become informed. For the most part I think we are all Komet fans and passionate about our City, team, and league.

I am far from perfect, but I want each of you to know that when I contribute something it is done with thought, logic, and honesty. I always will listen to others as that is how I learn and if I am wrong I will admit to it. (Just use facts to convince me.)

The "wrap up" conversation turned to the future of the team, league, etc. and Tim made a great point; to paraphrase it was something to the effect that "the best thing is just to sit back and let the events take place. Everything will come out eventually." Was that a fair assessment, Tim?

Lastly, if anyone wants to verify my agreement on that, go to the thread "Continuing the discussion" on May 12th. My comments there will verify my thoughts on being patient as we enter in the "silly season" and also refute those statements by others who think it is only money that creates a successful franchise.

(OK RunningKomet, was that too long again?)

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 9:59am

Hard cap + Loopholes = uneven playing field......

Blake Sebring
Thu, 05/20/2010 - 10:27am

Story as old as time. No matter what salary cap you use, someone will accuse someone of cheating. It's impossible to prove someone is cheating, and it's also impossible to prove you are not if someone accuses you of it.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 12:11pm

Never said cheating Blake, please dont put words into my post... Said Loopholes, which there are, that dont count against the cap that give the more secure franchises a leg up over the rest.

Blake Sebring
Thu, 05/20/2010 - 12:42pm

Loopholes, cheating, someone else would take the next step and I just beat them to it. But you are correct.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 12:43pm

JR--Loopholes are there for everyone equally to take advantage of. If a team, (any team) wants to sell more advertising they can. Those teams that work hard add, like the Komets, at it are the teams that are successful financially. There is much more than ticket sales that make teams succeed. I agree with you that you did not use the word "cheat" I don't believe you are doing that. I hope you are not accusing any team of that.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 1:06pm

Cheating and saying "loopholes are there for everyone equally to take advantage of" sounds like it's splitting hairs, Dschebig. As I think everyone above is in agreement on, though, there's not really any way to stop it. The tighter you clinch your fist, the more mud squishes out. Just part of sports and life IMO.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 1:34pm

RK--I do not disagree with you at all. "Cheating" could be criminal and or libellous if you can't back it up. Taking advantage of "Loopholes" is another thing all together. That is all I was trying to point out.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 1:37pm

Schebig, put the cork back in the bottle, too early in the day for that!

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 2:26pm

Burgee--I'm sorry master! OK you win, Good Night!

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 4:48pm

I agree Dennis they are all there to take advantage of by each team; but every team cant and thats the point and thats why it becomes an uneven playing field with the loopholes present...

The Frankes have had 20+ years to build this franchise to where it currently is and I am not trying to take anything away from them, far from it. The franchises they are going up against dont have that luxury. They are going up against teams with new or sophmore owners/front offices every year (it seems) and those teams have not been able to build secure franchise like the Frankes have... That is a massive advantage to have, IMO. Not only do they have the revenue from what this great fanbase invests; but they have made most all the mistakes you can make and have learned from them...

These fledgling franchises just cant compete from top to bottom with the well run K's franchise.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 6:46pm

JR-Ah but they can. The teams share information and marketing ideas everyday. If what you are saying is true than Scott Sproat would be the market award winner every year. The K' were not the first team to do "Chuck-a-Puck" as just one example. Now they all do it. It was a long time before the Komets were able to sell adds on the dasher boards as well as the ice. Now they all do it. I will agree that the Komets might do some of these things better than other teams but they all do it or can do it. You name the marketing tool and the Komets do it, and do it well. Having willing newspapers, not one but two that cover the team doesn't hurt one bit. Some cities are lucky to get one paper if that. I think we are very lucky to have not one "Blog" but two with which to vent, praise, rag or whatever some people get there jollies doing. I think you and I are on the very same page here. I just choose to take the more positive side. I really don't know if that is the correct side but it is my side in almost all things I comment on. I will also admit NO ONE starts out at the marketing top. They must work at it all year round. There is no doubt the Komets are already working on next season. I didn't mean to type a book. I hope Alan will forgive me. Burgee is all over me because I spilled his Foo Foo. Oh well!

Blake Sebring
Thu, 05/20/2010 - 8:13pm

Plus, why not hire competent, experienced people to work in the front offices instead of kids just out of school who are cheap but have no clue? They should all be begging Scott Sproat for the names of former interns, but they'd have to pay them a decent salary. Hire marketing people and don't expect the local media to do it for you for free. They all try to go cheap and they get what they pay for.

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 9:28pm

I always thought the Journal and the Sentinel were the same paper, more or less, just at different delivery times? Paint my face red...