I'm boycotting Dayton, when they play Laaaaaarrrrrrryyyyy in Ft Wayne then I will travel and patronize them. No Dayton trips until Lawrence plays goal in Ft Wayne!!!!
Burgee
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 12:51am
any Gems get automatic suspensions from the Bloomington game?
Bob
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 1:43am
I just looked at the boxscore from the Dayton game....anyone know what brought that one? Appears that Larry sort of lost his temper by taking that slashing minor....
JR1
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 6:37am
I think the only player who will be subject to any suspension would be Dawson for the Blaze since he got the instigator with less than 5 minutes to go in game...
JR1
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 6:42am
BTW, they need to win this game in Dayton tonight and sweep the weekend. Will work wonders for the players mentally to get all 3 this weekend and have a 4 game win streak dating back to last Saturday...imo
Go K's...
JR1
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 9:24am
Blake, please tell me the Komets are going to have NOTHING to do with the NPHL!!!!!
JungleMonkey
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 11:02am
Not really
Pro
Hockey
League?
I don't think the second most successful franchise in all of minor league hockey would slum itself out to a science expierment when they have established themselves in a legit league like the CHL and have the chance to join the ECHL.
JR1
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 11:28am
I dont know JM.... They are already complaining about the travel costs and costs involved in operating in a unionized league...
Laying the foundation for a move to the IHL3 (NPHL)???
Blake Sebring
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 1:38pm
I don't think there's even any need to comment on this. It won't happen here.
Jererygirl
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 1:52pm
I'll be in Dayton. Lol
Burgee60
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 3:34pm
Larry Sterling is not very good, we will score more goals on him tonight than ever before, I have a lot of friends in Dayton tonight, I'm still boycotting Dayton until Gratz is man enough to play Lawrence of headcase in fort Wayne.
I have a Larry Sterling trading card, I am going to burn it.
Charlie I
Sat, 11/26/2011 - 4:10pm
JR the Komets aren't going to hjave anything to do with it becasue they are not going to have individual owners. Reading what was on the NPHL site it said the league was going to own all the teams like the original CHL was and like the CBA was when Isiah was running it. The Frankes wouldn't have any control and wouldn't get hardly any money. IMO the Komets won't have anything to do with it. Also from what I have read they are looking at places that don't have pro Hockey. Reading what the leagues wishlist of teams was they were in Kentucky, Ohio, West Virginia, and North Carolina.
JR1
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 9:06am
Ok, then please comment as to what league you believe the Komets will be playing in next season, Blake?
KometKrazy
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 9:33am
Just kinda wondering why the NPHL is even being discussed now when there is a season going on now. Lets worry about this season and the roll the Komets are on and worry about next season after this season is over. Went to PA over Thanksgiving but kept up with the K's on CHL website. Its great to sweep the weekend and to be playing well on the road. They need to keep it up when going to RC this coming weekend and come back with at least a split.
JR1
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 10:16am
KK, its because some fans enjoy watching hockey now, while also keeping an eye on the future... There's no right or wrong here, just different ways of following your team. Personally, I start putting away money the year before for road trips, so knowing what league we will be in and what cities are involved helps me come up with a number to add into my monthly budget...
KometKrazy
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 10:48am
How did the NPHL come up anyway? Was there something posted on a website somewhere? Frankly I feel the CHL and ECHL should join together. Why have 2 or 3 AA leagues? There is only 1 AAA league. One AA league could help cut cost and travel expenses. But I think there are teams in California and Florida in the ECHL. I would hate to see their expenses.
JR1
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 11:13am
Plenty of rumors popping up right now KK... Good rumors and bad rumors...you just have to sift thru and do your homework. It sounds to me that this NPHL group is just spit balling right now to see what sticks or who/where shows interest. Their footprint has shifted to more of an Atlantic feel...kinda like the original east coast hockey league; but not sure why you try to compete at the same level as the ECHL in that area... Does not make sense...
There are also 'feelers' being extended in the midwest area of another AA bus league forming...sound familiar... Just rumblings right now.
Blake Sebring
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 11:40am
I don't know where they'll end up next year, JR. I don't think they know right this second. It won't be an A league because they know the fans won't stand for it. They also won't give up control to a single-owner entity. They could sell the team maybe and let that owner move it to another league.
JR1
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 2:15pm
I know I dont want to go back to a league where we are the big fish in the tiny pond again... We cant be in a 6 team league again where we are pulling 7500 and everyone else is pulling 2500 or less...often much less... There's no competitive balance in a league like that and fans in other cities would stop coming if they believe their team had zero chance.
There have been some interesting discussions in other places speculating on an ECHL/CHL merger creating a 30-30-30 setup with the NHL and AHL. In Theory everyone is affiliated and the conferences/divisions look REALLY enticing. How about a northern division of: Ft Wayne, Chicago, K-Zoo, Toledo, Cincy, and Evansville in the eastern conference of the ECHL??? A division heavy schedule with a few games against the Atlantic, and Southern divisions that could be done in 2 seperate trips... So basically a bus division with a couple long trips with multiple stops...
Selfishly, Komets fans would again have multiple locations to make realistic road trips to without having to take vacation time away from work...lol
Steve
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 5:07pm
I like your scenario JR except mix in a bit more travel. Otherwise it's basically a 6 team league until playoffs roll around and too easy for one team to dominate.... I think this would go over big and what is needed in minor league hockey..
JR1
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 5:46pm
Yeah Steve, I wanted to keep it short; but the Central Division of the Western Conference could have: Missouri, Wichita, Quad City, Tulsa, and Allen...
Could make a trip or two to some of those teams...
Very good conversations going on out there about this and I dont think I have seen one fan dislike this merger concept making the 30-30-30 idea come to life...
RunningKomet
Sun, 11/27/2011 - 5:54pm
The only problem is getting the owners to like the merger concept.
Steve
Mon, 11/28/2011 - 1:06pm
I think the greatest obstacle will be the leagues themselves. There are some major differences between the two and coming into agreement over those differences will take some diplomacy and compromise. This is where the NHL could play a large part in getting it done.
Financially the owners gain the most out of this and hopefully that trickles down to the fans, ie fewer price increases and farther apart. It's hard to comprehend why the owners wouldn't jump on this but egos are egos and some of their concerns could also be based in things that are unknown at this time such has who controls what and what rights, etc.
Comments
I'm boycotting Dayton, when they play Laaaaaarrrrrrryyyyy in Ft Wayne then I will travel and patronize them. No Dayton trips until Lawrence plays goal in Ft Wayne!!!!
any Gems get automatic suspensions from the Bloomington game?
I just looked at the boxscore from the Dayton game....anyone know what brought that one? Appears that Larry sort of lost his temper by taking that slashing minor....
I think the only player who will be subject to any suspension would be Dawson for the Blaze since he got the instigator with less than 5 minutes to go in game...
BTW, they need to win this game in Dayton tonight and sweep the weekend. Will work wonders for the players mentally to get all 3 this weekend and have a 4 game win streak dating back to last Saturday...imo
Go K's...
Blake, please tell me the Komets are going to have NOTHING to do with the NPHL!!!!!
Not really
Pro
Hockey
League?
I don't think the second most successful franchise in all of minor league hockey would slum itself out to a science expierment when they have established themselves in a legit league like the CHL and have the chance to join the ECHL.
I dont know JM.... They are already complaining about the travel costs and costs involved in operating in a unionized league...
Laying the foundation for a move to the IHL3 (NPHL)???
I don't think there's even any need to comment on this. It won't happen here.
I'll be in Dayton. Lol
Larry Sterling is not very good, we will score more goals on him tonight than ever before, I have a lot of friends in Dayton tonight, I'm still boycotting Dayton until Gratz is man enough to play Lawrence of headcase in fort Wayne.
I have a Larry Sterling trading card, I am going to burn it.
JR the Komets aren't going to hjave anything to do with it becasue they are not going to have individual owners. Reading what was on the NPHL site it said the league was going to own all the teams like the original CHL was and like the CBA was when Isiah was running it. The Frankes wouldn't have any control and wouldn't get hardly any money. IMO the Komets won't have anything to do with it. Also from what I have read they are looking at places that don't have pro Hockey. Reading what the leagues wishlist of teams was they were in Kentucky, Ohio, West Virginia, and North Carolina.
Ok, then please comment as to what league you believe the Komets will be playing in next season, Blake?
Just kinda wondering why the NPHL is even being discussed now when there is a season going on now. Lets worry about this season and the roll the Komets are on and worry about next season after this season is over. Went to PA over Thanksgiving but kept up with the K's on CHL website. Its great to sweep the weekend and to be playing well on the road. They need to keep it up when going to RC this coming weekend and come back with at least a split.
KK, its because some fans enjoy watching hockey now, while also keeping an eye on the future... There's no right or wrong here, just different ways of following your team. Personally, I start putting away money the year before for road trips, so knowing what league we will be in and what cities are involved helps me come up with a number to add into my monthly budget...
How did the NPHL come up anyway? Was there something posted on a website somewhere? Frankly I feel the CHL and ECHL should join together. Why have 2 or 3 AA leagues? There is only 1 AAA league. One AA league could help cut cost and travel expenses. But I think there are teams in California and Florida in the ECHL. I would hate to see their expenses.
Plenty of rumors popping up right now KK... Good rumors and bad rumors...you just have to sift thru and do your homework. It sounds to me that this NPHL group is just spit balling right now to see what sticks or who/where shows interest. Their footprint has shifted to more of an Atlantic feel...kinda like the original east coast hockey league; but not sure why you try to compete at the same level as the ECHL in that area... Does not make sense...
There are also 'feelers' being extended in the midwest area of another AA bus league forming...sound familiar... Just rumblings right now.
I don't know where they'll end up next year, JR. I don't think they know right this second. It won't be an A league because they know the fans won't stand for it. They also won't give up control to a single-owner entity. They could sell the team maybe and let that owner move it to another league.
I know I dont want to go back to a league where we are the big fish in the tiny pond again... We cant be in a 6 team league again where we are pulling 7500 and everyone else is pulling 2500 or less...often much less... There's no competitive balance in a league like that and fans in other cities would stop coming if they believe their team had zero chance.
There have been some interesting discussions in other places speculating on an ECHL/CHL merger creating a 30-30-30 setup with the NHL and AHL. In Theory everyone is affiliated and the conferences/divisions look REALLY enticing. How about a northern division of: Ft Wayne, Chicago, K-Zoo, Toledo, Cincy, and Evansville in the eastern conference of the ECHL??? A division heavy schedule with a few games against the Atlantic, and Southern divisions that could be done in 2 seperate trips... So basically a bus division with a couple long trips with multiple stops...
Selfishly, Komets fans would again have multiple locations to make realistic road trips to without having to take vacation time away from work...lol
I like your scenario JR except mix in a bit more travel. Otherwise it's basically a 6 team league until playoffs roll around and too easy for one team to dominate.... I think this would go over big and what is needed in minor league hockey..
Yeah Steve, I wanted to keep it short; but the Central Division of the Western Conference could have: Missouri, Wichita, Quad City, Tulsa, and Allen...
Could make a trip or two to some of those teams...
Very good conversations going on out there about this and I dont think I have seen one fan dislike this merger concept making the 30-30-30 idea come to life...
The only problem is getting the owners to like the merger concept.
I think the greatest obstacle will be the leagues themselves. There are some major differences between the two and coming into agreement over those differences will take some diplomacy and compromise. This is where the NHL could play a large part in getting it done.
Financially the owners gain the most out of this and hopefully that trickles down to the fans, ie fewer price increases and farther apart. It's hard to comprehend why the owners wouldn't jump on this but egos are egos and some of their concerns could also be based in things that are unknown at this time such has who controls what and what rights, etc.