At the beginning of the third period, the Komets were issued a delay of game penalty. What happened to cause this penalty? I had trouble hearing the announcement when it was given. Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
JungleMonkey
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:20am
I think it has to do with the CHL rule stating that only 5 skaters can come onto the ice after the intermission. The rest have to go directly to the bench. I could be wrong though. It wasn't that clear at the game and I wasn't paying close atttention to who all came onto the ice. If so, it wasn't the first time that it happened this season.
Blake Sebring
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:30am
JM is correct.
Andrea
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:44am
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I appreciate it.
Five Minute Major
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:33am
We were wondering about that too, thanks for the info. I didn't see who came out onto the ice either, just noticed Francis in the penalty box all of a sudden.
Alan
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 12:08pm
My first reaction was that the delay of game penalty was called for too much time elapsing between the periods. The alotted time between periods is 18 minutes. The Komets regularly go beyond this.( If you pay close attention you will notice that many times they stop the clock in order to get all their between period activities completed). The league has warned the Komets and the referee has the disgression to call the penalty. I'm not sure the Komets would admit to it if that was the reason for fear of the backlash.
Advertising has taken over these games. We can't learn the Komets starting lineup without it, at the first stop in action we have to learn the temperature outside and inside the building, can't go on a powerplay without it, can't go on the penalty kill without it, can't go back to full strength without it, we can't even be encouraged make "noise" without, it is just plastered all over the ice, platered all over the boards, and we are bombarded with it on the scoreboard throughout the game.
Look, I understand that the K's would argue that without the income brought in by advertising that ticket prices would have to go up. I understand completely.
You know the best way to advertise? Win games. Opening night, large crowd and a loss. New Years Eve, large crowd and a loss. Chaulk's return, middle of the road size crowd, and a loss.
If you want people to return, give them some encouragement to come back with some wins.
I must be wrong because on the blog no one ever complains about it. Yet where I sit, the fans around me regularly mention it.
No-Touch Icing
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 12:25pm
Advertising is part of every sport, every team, every league at every level. So there isn't a legitamate complaint for it at all. This has been going on for years and it's not going to stop.
People are complaining about advertising. LOL. That's how bad this season is.
This team does not look comfortable out on the ice in this league.
It appears that everyone has Al Sims figured out.
It's going to be a long 2011 for everyone involved with this team.
JB
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 12:27pm
Question for the hockey experts: Musselwhite won an award for 2nd fastest slap shot. Why wouldn't we put him on the point on our power play and take advantage of that awesome shot? He would also have the skating speed to stop or catch an opposing player that made a breakaway without having to resort to hooking or tripping.
RunningKomet
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 12:47pm
Alan, that issue has been brought up on here before, although I don't remember who was talking about it. I do agree with you though, it does get old. Everything is like that though, it's the world we live in. Try timing how long a show on TV is during prime time as opposed to how much of the show is commercials?
Hockey Fan for Life
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:21pm
Greed, that's all it is.
JungleMonkey
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:37pm
Thats a creative idea, JB. Probably why it hasn't happened. The Komets seem content with doing the same things over and over with the same players.
Steve
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:47pm
When and in what league did he do this, and what was the speed?
He also got a hat trick in collage, all three goals scored short handed, one of the very few people anywhere to do so, but we haven't seen that kind of production out of him here yet either.
JungleMonkey
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:50pm
NCAA Division 1 skills competition.
Blake Sebring
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:52pm
Hit, the Komets don't develop young players? What would you call Schrock, DeAngelis, O'Connor, Curadeau, Syroczynski, Mironovic, Hodgman?
ggeiselman
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:57pm
Musselwhite won the fastest skater competition, not the hardest shot.
ggeiselman
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:59pm
Sorry misread the post, you are correct on the 2nd place.
RunningKomet
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:19pm
Other than Hodgman and maybe eventually Schrock, I would call them Komets lifers (with short possible stints in the AHL if injuries require them to do so).
Mr Snufflupugus
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:30pm
As an advertiser I appreciate the efforts the Komets go to in order to promote the products that those of us pay them to advertise. It isn't cheap to advertise and we rely on the Komets to get our message out.
Minor league sports, Nascar and even now the top tier sports rely on businesses like mine in order to stay afloat.
As both advertiser and fan it doesn't please me to see a subpar team and an unhappy fan base. However when they send me the advertising contract next year I'll sign it without a moments thought because I believe in the long term track record of this franchise and ownership. I also know the fan base both hardcore and bandwagon happy or angry will still care.
Alan
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:36pm
Sorry if my "complaint" wasn't "legitimate", No Touch Icing.
No one is naive enough to think that advertising isn't important or everywhere in the hockey world. However I would ask you to pay attention to other team's ice surfaces ( in any league you choose ) and tell me that the Coliseum isn't just plain covered compared to those you see. Ok, enough of that.
Still would like to know for sure if the delay of game wasn't for the extra time taken between periods.
Thanks, Running Komet.
Blake Sebring
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:39pm
It was not, Alan. It was for too many men on the ice when the clock hit :00.
JungleMonkey
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:51pm
Hodgman developed his skills in Erie. He came to Fort Wayne as a "ringer" for the playoffs. Of his 416 career games (OHL/IHL/ECHL/AHL) he played 54 in Fort Wayne... about 13%. Conversely, 61% of his games were played in Erie of the OHL. I don't think the Komets can lay claim to his "development".
Alan
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:37pm
Thanks for answering my question, Blake. I appreciate it.
scott
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:57pm
Blake I sit behind the komet bench and the refferee called the penalty with 15 seconds to go on the score board.
Hoss
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:19pm
The penalty is because when starting the second or third period, only the starting six guys can come out on the ice. This was one of those "special" rules which was covered at the start of the season about how the CHL differs from other leagues. The Komets were warned about it in the home opener and were told it would be called any other time this year.
The argument about the advertising is about as dead as the AHL horse. I understand what you are talking about Alan and I think most fans would agree cutting back on some of the fluff stuff during the game. The game that I enjoyed the most was the one when the sound system was stuck by lightning and they could play any music. You could actually talk to the fans around you and not have to yell at the top of your lungs. Sadly, it's not just minor league sports that has come to this. When I went down to Indy for the Cowboys game, every stop of play as answered by a sponsored camera, person of the game, sideline shot, get loud, dance cam, or other kind of crap to make a buck. Some of these businesses might want to think about how their name is tied to an over-killed part of the game... or that last add slapped on the ice and how that might make people spend their money elsewhere.
Sorry for the ramble...
SuzyKuz
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:58pm
What I observed last night and have failed to admit to myself is our style of play does not lend itself to this league. Let me explain. We are a perimeter shooting team. Last night pointed out to me that QC crashed the net time and time again; we did not. Maybe we should change how we approach playing the game - coaching I believe.
I was however impressed by the flow of the game with only miniscule amounts of time assessed to fighting. It was nice to watch an actual game being played with few penalties.
As to all the advertising comments, I bring a book to read during all of it.
brian
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 5:10pm
hockey fan for life.. really? greed? no.. its called doing whats right to keep the franchise alive and well. obviously you were not around here when we lost the franchise and didnt know if we would have hockey in ft wayne. with no cut on concessions or parking, the owners have to sell as much advertising as possible to turn a profit. why is it people are so critical of the owners making money? i hope they make all they can. im a corporate sponsor of the komets and will continue to do so in the future to support our local treasure. think its coincidence we are always in the top 5 in attendence? go komets!
Wendy
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 5:52pm
All, I have to say about that is I wonder how everyone will feel when the jerseys are covered with so many ads that you have to search for the team logo and every news article about the team is required to refer to them as "the Mastercard Fort Wayne Komets". Regarding the later, check this out:
http://www.bluetongues.com.au/post-game-report-bartercard-gold-coast-blue-tongues-vs-canberra-knights.html
Wendy
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 5:55pm
Regarding the latter...
Stupid keyboar! ;)
Wendy
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 5:58pm
And never listen to anyone who says "That's just the way it is." The world is what we make of it.
JungleMonkey
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 7:25pm
No cut of the parking or concessions comes as part of the deal when you never have to pay any rent.
Comments
Blake -
At the beginning of the third period, the Komets were issued a delay of game penalty. What happened to cause this penalty? I had trouble hearing the announcement when it was given. Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I think it has to do with the CHL rule stating that only 5 skaters can come onto the ice after the intermission. The rest have to go directly to the bench. I could be wrong though. It wasn't that clear at the game and I wasn't paying close atttention to who all came onto the ice. If so, it wasn't the first time that it happened this season.
JM is correct.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I appreciate it.
We were wondering about that too, thanks for the info. I didn't see who came out onto the ice either, just noticed Francis in the penalty box all of a sudden.
My first reaction was that the delay of game penalty was called for too much time elapsing between the periods. The alotted time between periods is 18 minutes. The Komets regularly go beyond this.( If you pay close attention you will notice that many times they stop the clock in order to get all their between period activities completed). The league has warned the Komets and the referee has the disgression to call the penalty. I'm not sure the Komets would admit to it if that was the reason for fear of the backlash.
Advertising has taken over these games. We can't learn the Komets starting lineup without it, at the first stop in action we have to learn the temperature outside and inside the building, can't go on a powerplay without it, can't go on the penalty kill without it, can't go back to full strength without it, we can't even be encouraged make "noise" without, it is just plastered all over the ice, platered all over the boards, and we are bombarded with it on the scoreboard throughout the game.
Look, I understand that the K's would argue that without the income brought in by advertising that ticket prices would have to go up. I understand completely.
You know the best way to advertise? Win games. Opening night, large crowd and a loss. New Years Eve, large crowd and a loss. Chaulk's return, middle of the road size crowd, and a loss.
If you want people to return, give them some encouragement to come back with some wins.
I must be wrong because on the blog no one ever complains about it. Yet where I sit, the fans around me regularly mention it.
Advertising is part of every sport, every team, every league at every level. So there isn't a legitamate complaint for it at all. This has been going on for years and it's not going to stop.
People are complaining about advertising. LOL. That's how bad this season is.
This team does not look comfortable out on the ice in this league.
It appears that everyone has Al Sims figured out.
It's going to be a long 2011 for everyone involved with this team.
Question for the hockey experts: Musselwhite won an award for 2nd fastest slap shot. Why wouldn't we put him on the point on our power play and take advantage of that awesome shot? He would also have the skating speed to stop or catch an opposing player that made a breakaway without having to resort to hooking or tripping.
Alan, that issue has been brought up on here before, although I don't remember who was talking about it. I do agree with you though, it does get old. Everything is like that though, it's the world we live in. Try timing how long a show on TV is during prime time as opposed to how much of the show is commercials?
Greed, that's all it is.
Thats a creative idea, JB. Probably why it hasn't happened. The Komets seem content with doing the same things over and over with the same players.
When and in what league did he do this, and what was the speed?
He also got a hat trick in collage, all three goals scored short handed, one of the very few people anywhere to do so, but we haven't seen that kind of production out of him here yet either.
NCAA Division 1 skills competition.
Hit, the Komets don't develop young players? What would you call Schrock, DeAngelis, O'Connor, Curadeau, Syroczynski, Mironovic, Hodgman?
Musselwhite won the fastest skater competition, not the hardest shot.
Sorry misread the post, you are correct on the 2nd place.
Other than Hodgman and maybe eventually Schrock, I would call them Komets lifers (with short possible stints in the AHL if injuries require them to do so).
As an advertiser I appreciate the efforts the Komets go to in order to promote the products that those of us pay them to advertise. It isn't cheap to advertise and we rely on the Komets to get our message out.
Minor league sports, Nascar and even now the top tier sports rely on businesses like mine in order to stay afloat.
As both advertiser and fan it doesn't please me to see a subpar team and an unhappy fan base. However when they send me the advertising contract next year I'll sign it without a moments thought because I believe in the long term track record of this franchise and ownership. I also know the fan base both hardcore and bandwagon happy or angry will still care.
Sorry if my "complaint" wasn't "legitimate", No Touch Icing.
No one is naive enough to think that advertising isn't important or everywhere in the hockey world. However I would ask you to pay attention to other team's ice surfaces ( in any league you choose ) and tell me that the Coliseum isn't just plain covered compared to those you see. Ok, enough of that.
Still would like to know for sure if the delay of game wasn't for the extra time taken between periods.
Thanks, Running Komet.
It was not, Alan. It was for too many men on the ice when the clock hit :00.
Hodgman developed his skills in Erie. He came to Fort Wayne as a "ringer" for the playoffs. Of his 416 career games (OHL/IHL/ECHL/AHL) he played 54 in Fort Wayne... about 13%. Conversely, 61% of his games were played in Erie of the OHL. I don't think the Komets can lay claim to his "development".
Thanks for answering my question, Blake. I appreciate it.
Blake I sit behind the komet bench and the refferee called the penalty with 15 seconds to go on the score board.
The penalty is because when starting the second or third period, only the starting six guys can come out on the ice. This was one of those "special" rules which was covered at the start of the season about how the CHL differs from other leagues. The Komets were warned about it in the home opener and were told it would be called any other time this year.
The argument about the advertising is about as dead as the AHL horse. I understand what you are talking about Alan and I think most fans would agree cutting back on some of the fluff stuff during the game. The game that I enjoyed the most was the one when the sound system was stuck by lightning and they could play any music. You could actually talk to the fans around you and not have to yell at the top of your lungs. Sadly, it's not just minor league sports that has come to this. When I went down to Indy for the Cowboys game, every stop of play as answered by a sponsored camera, person of the game, sideline shot, get loud, dance cam, or other kind of crap to make a buck. Some of these businesses might want to think about how their name is tied to an over-killed part of the game... or that last add slapped on the ice and how that might make people spend their money elsewhere.
Sorry for the ramble...
What I observed last night and have failed to admit to myself is our style of play does not lend itself to this league. Let me explain. We are a perimeter shooting team. Last night pointed out to me that QC crashed the net time and time again; we did not. Maybe we should change how we approach playing the game - coaching I believe.
I was however impressed by the flow of the game with only miniscule amounts of time assessed to fighting. It was nice to watch an actual game being played with few penalties.
As to all the advertising comments, I bring a book to read during all of it.
hockey fan for life.. really? greed? no.. its called doing whats right to keep the franchise alive and well. obviously you were not around here when we lost the franchise and didnt know if we would have hockey in ft wayne. with no cut on concessions or parking, the owners have to sell as much advertising as possible to turn a profit. why is it people are so critical of the owners making money? i hope they make all they can. im a corporate sponsor of the komets and will continue to do so in the future to support our local treasure. think its coincidence we are always in the top 5 in attendence? go komets!
All, I have to say about that is I wonder how everyone will feel when the jerseys are covered with so many ads that you have to search for the team logo and every news article about the team is required to refer to them as "the Mastercard Fort Wayne Komets". Regarding the later, check this out:
http://www.bluetongues.com.au/post-game-report-bartercard-gold-coast-blue-tongues-vs-canberra-knights.html
Regarding the latter...
Stupid keyboar! ;)
And never listen to anyone who says "That's just the way it is." The world is what we make of it.
No cut of the parking or concessions comes as part of the deal when you never have to pay any rent.