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Questions about Evansville affiliation

I asked David Franke today about some of Hit Somebody's questions on the Evansville affiliation.

* There's nothing to prevent another IHL team from picking up a player from Evansville unless that player is on a two-way contract with the Komets. Two-way contracts have not been discussed but could be a possibility.

* That said, there's nothing to prevent the Komets from picking up a player from Battle Creek, even though that team is affiliated with Muskegon. There's no gentleman's agreement to leave each other's affiliates alone, either, as that would be collusion and illegal. The IHL teams have not discussed among themselves the possibility of two-way contracts, but they have similar agreements with the AHL so it wouldn't be that difficult to do.

* Players on professional tryout contracts (in other words, temporary) would not have to clear waivers before being sent down. If the Komets sign a player to a regular contact, he'd have to clear IHL waivers first.

* The main benefit of the affiliation is the ability to get a player to town the same day if the Komets call. They won't have to fly a player in, hope a team from another league is willing to work with them and they can ask for a specific player. Franke said he plans on scouting Evansville several times during the season to keep up to date on the Icemen's talent.

"The intent is to make it easier for us to get a player if we are in a pinch," Franke said. "It will save time and money and we should be able to get the player here the same day if we ask for him early enough."

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Mon, 08/17/2009 - 4:04pm

Thanks Blake! It makes sense especialy in this economy.

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 08/17/2009 - 4:42pm

Thanks Blake....

It sounds like it would have made sense if the IHL and AAHL would have just announced a working agreement between the 2 leagues and not specific team to team affiliations. Unless they do 2-way contracts. Otherwise, what is the point really of having Evansville be Fort Wayne's farmteam if Bloomington can take one their players without Fort Wayne getting first chance?

Thanks for asking Blake.

Could you now ask the President when this economy is going to turn around and what the heck is the deal with this Healthcare Plan? LOL

Mon, 08/17/2009 - 7:30pm

So are any of you veteran fans out there with a lot more hockey knowledge than myself going to offer up any guesses on who doesn't make the team after camp?? Just doing the math, I think we're all realizing a big name or two is going to be sent packing. It's a heartbreaking subject, but it's reality. Anyone willing to take the plunge and stab at the cut list??

Mon, 08/17/2009 - 8:18pm

He said the economy will turn around as soon as the chineese pay for the clunkers they are buying for the scrap metal to undercut our steel pricing so they can sell it to korea and they can make more kia's for us to import.

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 08/17/2009 - 9:34pm

Bertram and a forward which I haven't a clue which one it might be, maybe someone gets hurt early on and they go protected on the IR? I apologize for saying Bertram, I want him to be good and make it, but he looked beat up last year and it would take a huge camp for him to make it onto this team....I will also say Tim Haun as they will keep a rookie goalie which makes alot more sense.

Mon, 08/17/2009 - 9:43pm

I'd probably agree on Bertram, but it's been said on here he had some family issues last year that prevented him from playing to his utmost potential, so we'll have to see. I hope they don't let Haun go. Letting everything rest on only one goalie makes me nervous, even if he is Boucher. Accidents happen and people can get injured, even with tons of goalie pads on. Ask Leplante.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:22am

Maybe Stayzer= when we sign that 6'5'' 240lb. heavyweight.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:03am

Wendy, " I gots to know." I answered your questions about the quotes yesterday. I have not heard from you to see if I am correct. 1) Star Trek the Voyage Home and 2) Erik the Viking. To RunningKomet: you are absolutely correct. The preseason roster is one of the most talented I have seen in a long, long time. I'm going to list the players who I think are sure-things. In no particular order I would say Chaulk, Druin, Thomas, Hukalo, Shafronov, Varone, Syrocznski, Dupuis, Mironovic, Rodger, and Boucher. It's interesting that Varone, Saidachev, and Whitehead are invited to AHL camps. That speaks highly of their ability and the chance they are on the opening day roster increases. I think that one of these four (Woods, MacMillan, Stayzer, Bertram) will not make this team. Mironovic may be a "bubble" player but I think his contract will be lower than some and that may help him stay. Rodger is a rookie defenseman and remember that each team needs to dress four rookies per game. So... knowing that you must dress four rookies per game, and knowing that there will be AHL training camp cuts at approximately the start of the season, there will be some surprises. I'm not sure of much but I am sure of that. OK, that was what I think. What does everyone else think?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:37am

I know you're bored, but do you guys realize how completely ridiculous this discussion is? LOL. Who knows who is going to get hurt or who won't show up? Bertram has three rings in his last four full years of playing, and I'm pretty sure he's been on the ice at the end of those deciding games. He's not going to get cut.

That said, this will be a fascinating camp -- in a month and a half!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:43am

As I wrote before, I'm thinking Bertram but I could be totally off on that. I know he is loved in the Fort, but unfortunately age catches up to all of us and slows us down. I think the age would affect a fighter/muscle type player more than a skill player, such as Shaf.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:14am

Gee Blake, this discussion is no more ridiculous than any concerning Michael Vick. Especially on a Komets blogsite. My list was one of no-brainers and I am pulling for Bertram. Remember I was one who defended him on earlier posts. The Komets have had extremely good fortune the last few years of having everyone show up at camp. I think for the purpose of the discussion that RunningKomet started, one would have to assume that everyone will show. There are lots of things that can (will) happen. Every year there is a surprise or two. I think RunningKomet is real interested in what others may think and I find no fault in that. By October the 7th this is going to get real interesting. Your reference to camp not taking place for a month and a half implies that there is a long period of time before things get serious. That fact may be true for a team like Fort Wayne which has signed 26 players. I bet for Flint and Quad City a month and a half feels like a real short period of time.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 12:44pm

So if Blake doesn't pose the question, it's a ridiculous blog? Give me a break! You've been complaining about how busy you are with football and how you have so much other stuff going on besides the Komets, yet you have time to come on here and call someone else's idea "completely ridiculous"?? Sorry to offend you, Kronkite! I really think you forget yourself sometimes. I'll try to stay out of the way of your delusions of grandeur from here on out, Oh Wise One!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 1:10pm

I would agree the discussion might be a little bit off base. It is interesting to read what armchair coaches (don't be offened I am one also) have to say. After 35 years I have come to the conclusion that whatever players make this team they will be the best ones available in the "Coach's" oppinion. You all have missed something very important. With a roaster full of possible players it frees Al Sims up to visit NHL and AHL camps. You just never know what diamond in the rough he could come across. For that matter what secondary agreements could be reached with twoway contracted players. Al has lots of NHL contacts and is very highly regarded as a teaching coach.Those things get me very excited about the upcoming season as it should all of you including The Headmaster Blake!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 1:42pm

Dschebig, you are exactly right. That is why I said in my first post that when the AHL camps break there could be more players to look at. RunningKomet, please don't back off on your posting. You are a good contributor in my book. These things will sort themselves out eventually and I think we have a heck of a foundation to start with.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 1:47pm

All i want to know right now is who is going to make the playoff roster.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:00pm

MR. PLAYOFF=HODGMAN/ I have 4 Justin Hodgman hockey cards.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:03pm

Burgee you really don't want much do you? Playoff roster, we haven't even started the season. While you and I as well as everybody on this blog believe the Komets will be there. There is only one person who knows the answer to your question and they crucified him. I am sorry maybe you asked that toung in cheek!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:56pm

You want ridiculous? Okay. If you were a hockey stick, what kind of stick would you be? :D

Alan, I just responded on the other thread, but yes, you are correct, sir. Suddenly I feel very silly. Well, sillier than normal that is.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:58pm

I'll one-up you, Burgee. Not only do I know who is on THIS YEAR'S playoff roster, I already know who is on NEXT YEAR'S team on starting night for the Komets. Of course, I'm not allowed to tell anyone because it would be off-topic and we've seen what happens when anyone other than the head cheese starts anything.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:12pm

I could care less what you guys start, RK, but that doesn't mean I give up the right to tell you it's ridiculous. And that was RIDICULOUS! LOL. Of course you guys have NEVER said that to something I've written, either, right?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:18pm

Burgee- RK has got to get at least a 10min MC if not a gross MC. He should set beside me so I can remind him our leader really likes Velvetta Cheese. He takes a whole box with him to catch carp on the Maumee!

Blueline Baby
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:45pm

Wendy, I've been gone a few days and just now saw your post a few threads back about the orange "cone" for me to make my voice louder at games....probably a great idea in theory, bad in reality....remember my friend Deuce? He has one of those and brings it with when we go, allegedly for the kids to use....um, yeah. Bad idea....somehow we end up being the kids. Huh.

And on the bad idea note, I will not answer your "if I were a hockey stick" question....LOL! Very funny though. Maybe I'll send ya an email and answer it there, because you know I have an idea. Actually, that would be a great Halloween costume....a stick and a puck, going together. I'm sure someone clever could come up with something better, though....how's that for a topic switch?! LOL!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:53pm

Dschebig, nobody likes a whiner, you stay in box all season now and feel shame, you sit in middle to stay away from other shame feelers! No crayons and paper for you all year either! RK was blindsided, threw no blows, no PIM, do not feel shame. Opening night everyone bring box of velveeta and leave at info booth attn blake sebring. Now that has to sound like Jimmy, didn't see what happened so called something stupid!

Spill it RK, I want to know who we are re-signing next year.

I want to be an expensive hockey stick.

On a lighter note, in between tanning these last three weeks I've lost 17 pounds so far, 3 week weigh in tomorrow!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:59pm

My SWEET DOG ate my orange cone= check out IceChips/ I have a Guy Dupuis Germany card.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 5:09pm

Burgee you are very cruel! You gave Vick a 2nd chance how about me. I know, I still have to sit in the "Box" all year. OK I will gladly.

Blake Sebring
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:42pm

What's the deal with the Velveeta? Are you talking about the way Burgee looks with his tan?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:55pm

You guys are cheezy

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 6:07am

Blake- It is cheap cheese, need I say more?

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 8:33am

I caught your reply Wendy. Don't forget to go to the Post Office today. I need to find out if the Bengals have any new players. Ya know, I'm thinking the only difference between the Bengals and convicts would be the direction of the stripes on their shirts. It must be really confusing for their opponents when they see so many "referees" on the field. Hey guys....we are posting about velveeta cheese?? We have now officially fallen into the cavern of ridiculousness!!!

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 8:49am

Uber - ridiculousness, speaking of cincy, i did take the back roads into kings island one year and am pretty sure i passed their training facility, i mean prison.