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Tailing the Komets

Suspension news

Here's what the CHL decided:

Fort Wayne -- undisclosed team fine; Nick Boucher, undisclosed fine.

Wichita -- undisclosed team fine; A.J. Gale undisclosed fine; 

Chris Greene

Posted in: Komets

Comments

breslyn
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:07pm

Ft. Wayne fine = what in the world?

Where is the Thunder Coach suspension/fine??

Magers gets three games?? Are you kidding right now?? Throw down a line judge and get only three games AND come off the bench?!?!?

Other fines/suspensions are warranted and just.

JungleMonkey
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:11pm

Pure unadulterated crap.

Pete Cichy has been scared by this. 3 games? He could have been killed.

After the snowjob they pulled on MacMillan this is absurd.

I'll pay the first $50 of Nick's "undisclosed team fine".... if its more than $50..

GameMisconduct
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:18pm

My problem is the lack of consistency..Mac punches DVD who smashes his face ON THE ICE and is suspended for 20+ games..Richards jumps Schrock but because his face doesn't get busted he only gets 2 games? That's ridiculous. Then there's Magers who came off the bench for the sole purpose of fighting and violently throws Peter Cichy to he ice in the process and only gets 3 games. The CHL screwed this, there's no other way around it.

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:26pm

I am flabbergasted by this.....

a) Gale got no suspension? He left the bench, threw punches on Danko, held Danko down while Greene threw punches on Danko, and then Gale went over and threw a punch on Lapointe.....Gale was supposed to be in the Penalty Box....he was on the ice illegally.

b) Goulet threw how many punches after linesman #1 stepped in to stop the goonery.....Ref and Linesmen are trying to break up the goonery and Goulet continues to throw bombs......enter linesmen #2 plus the other 2 officials and Goulet still is throwing punches on Molle who did not obviously have any intention in fighting.

c) Richards started the goonery with his jumping Schrock....before the whistle, and broke the "Code" of manning up face to face with Schrock. This is no different than what they accused MacMillan of. If Schrocks cheek or jaw was broken....would Richards have gotten 25 games suspension? So basically the suspension only amounts to anything if someone gets brutally injured or killed?

d) Magers could have brutally injured the Linesman. 3 games does not send a message that you can't throw an official to the ice. He left the bench too. What is the minimum suspension for leaving the bench to start an altercation? What is the minimum suspension for abuse of an official?

e) Schwab and Doneghy or whatever his name is......one of the 2 of them entered into the beating of Dustin Molle towards the middle of the Goonery. Whoever it was.....suspension should have resulted.

I have no clue why FW gets a fine. I get why Boucher does.....Otto's video was excellent, it showed the gesture clearly of what Nick did......not sure I agree with the fine....if you look at the whole game......Magers was up to shenanigans all not long.

Unreal.

The CHL hates FW......it is obvious now.

Call me an idiot.

JR1
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:28pm

Honestly, no problems here...

Leagues have become too suspension and fine happy... I find it disturbing as fans, that the first things we discuss after games like these are suspensions, fines, etc... The need for finger pointing and identifying the fall guy has taken the enjoyment out of games like these. We dont talk about how we will remember games like these 20 years from now more keenly than our comeback against Wichita the night before... We dont discuass the possibility of facing these guys in the playoffs and the potential for having a playoff series like we havent seen around here in what 15 years???

I'll probably get blasted for this stance; but so be it.

JungleMonkey
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:28pm

When Nasty rips someone's head off, I don't want to hear the league whine.

God help the linesman that gets in the way of the War Machine, tossing around officials is only worth 3 games...

GameMisconduct
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:30pm

I would LOVE for the CHL to explain how they came to their suspension totals but we all know that will never happen.

JungleMonkey
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:31pm

JR, I agree with you on 90% of it.. The Magers issue is the only one I'm complaining about. The rest of it was acceptable by my standards.

Poor Cichy was tossed like a rag doll, I can't see that is punishable by 3 games.

RunningKomet
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:32pm

Let's get nasty...

Hoss
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:32pm

What a joke!

JungleMonkey
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:33pm

I guess the CHL is telling us what some of us have said all along... The Komets are soft. They see this as a "standard incident".

RunningKomet
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:34pm

Also, Lord help whoever the poor Bloomington slob is that Mirasty chooses to use on Weds to make a name for himself in the Fort...

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:34pm

Nasty walks on the ice and you know what the ref will do.....instant penalties for being on the ice.

JR, I love you Bro.....but I disagree with you.

The issue is consistancy.

If the approach to suspensions and penalties were what you say, and everyone knows it going into it......then maybe none of us complain here.

The consistancy is not there. And this league loves to toss guys from the game if they start thinking about fighting.

JR1
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:35pm

I agree with the posts about consistency; but thats a complaint we've had for years... I dont see it changing anytime soon.

I think it also has to do with the amount of stink one team raises... Odessa complained from the mountain tops about the MacMillan incident; but I have heard little from the K's except the little from Al right after the game. Would these be different if the Frankes would have taken their complaints to the press like Odessa's front office did? Who knows??? Also, just asking a question, NOT blaming the K's or Frankes for the lack of any "harsh" punishment handed down by the CHL for the Wichita players....

JR1
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:43pm

Hit, I hear you; but I think the problem leagues face with suspensions, fines, etc... is thier evaluation of the game and trying to put the actions into perspective or trying to decide "intent"...

I think leagues just need to put out a list of infractions and what the punishments will be for said infractions... Forget about trying to put these type of incidents into perspective or figuring intent... Have the leagues supervisor of officials (someone with officiating experience) review the game tape and determine if the Ref's calls were correct and then punish accordingly...

Leaving the bench = 5 games

Abuse of official = 3 games

ETC...

We all know in hockey currently there is a set of rules for incidents that involve injuries and a set of rules that dont...

There are a set of rules for star players and a set for everyone else...

Until they change this the complaints about consistency will continue, IMO...

GameMisconduct
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:49pm

When Nasty gets his 1st suspension (let's be honest, we all know it's just a matter of time) the CHL better remember this joke and keep it even..

JR1
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:51pm

JM, I agree with you about the Magers suspension actually. I thought it was lighter than what I expected from past incidents...

I remember when leagues started to come down on the bench clearing brawls that were so prevelant in hiockey once upon a time... The original IHL had a 10 game automatic suspension for the first player who left the bench and that players coach (if memory serves me correctly)... There were no ifs, and, or buts about it... they were gone.

Leagues need to go back to this kind of "written in stone" system. Like I mentioned, I think there should be a review by a qualified league rep to determine the accuracy of the ref's calls and then utilize a concrete punishment system that every team knows... The review is necessary because this is a developmental league for officials as well...

Me78
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:51pm

Thunder coach put him back in net. I watched him point for him to go back in.....now that bring said u cam guess what was gonna happen....he was put back in net by the coach.....

JungleMonkey
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:53pm

Still cracks me up that Richards had to jump a guy he had 5 inches and 40 lbs on... And Goulet throwing punches around a linesman while Gale and Greene went two on one on Danko... amazing. They might have a repuatation for being tough, but everytime I watch the video I laugh at the gutless display they put on...

JungleMonkey
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:54pm

The coach should have told him to take his stick with him then.

JR1
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 9:55pm

GM, I agree. And I'm sure the amount of emails flying from Ft Wayne to the league office will be mind blowing if they forget... LOL

GameMisconduct
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:00pm

HaHa very true...Anyone got a phone number? I'm sure we're going to need it

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:09pm

I wonder if the FW fines are because of the things Larry the PA guy chose to play and say after the events that took place???

GameMisconduct
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:11pm

It's possible but I doubt it

JR1
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:16pm

I think both teams getting fined is just the league saying both teams had a hand in these brawls happening....

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:16pm

Would be interesting to know.

Susan
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:17pm

What "punishment" does the ref receive for not calling the game with 2.8 seconds left and virtually no chance to tie with the faceoff at the opposite end? I believe that is where the real problem is as none of this would have happened if he would have just called the game after the first incidents occurred. But who am I to judge?

JungleMonkey
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:17pm

Does anyone pay attention to that crap that was coming out of the speakers? The Homer Simpson Wichita Lineman nonsense? I still have a headache from it. Maybe I missed something that was more offensive than usual...

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:20pm

I don't pay attention to it either....it was just a thought.

Sorry.

Someone over the last couple of days mentioned it and how you don't hear most of that garbage in other arenas.....

Not a big deal.

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 02/07/2011 - 10:21pm

What is Super Fans opinion about the CHL Suspensions and Fines???

Would like to hear it.......

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