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Re-read Monday's column. I didn

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Fri, 12/04/2009 - 11:27pm

Hi Blake,

Listened to the game - that's how Chaser made it sound too. Quad City has a nice team, they just need more finishers at the net and they'd be out of the cellar.

When Haun got hurt, Robbie was talking on the broadcast about his own injury, how they brought in a goalie from Muskegon (who also couldn't play) unless Atchison got hurt.

Who could this have been? Robbie specifically said it was the year they won the cup (which would make it 1972-73), but I've seen photos from the celebration, and Irons is in uniform, on the ice, wearing a cast and pouring champagne into the cup. Remember, this was in the days before each player had his own number and jersey - new guys just wore someone else's jersey.

The only times I remember the Komets having an emergency goalie for the playoffs were the 1976-77 season, when emergency goalie David Legree had to play when Brian Holderness got tossed for slashing the referee against Toledo and 1978-79, when we got Brian O'Connell from Muskegon but I don't remember him playing.

Any help Blake, Dennis, Chuckitt?

Fri, 12/04/2009 - 11:40pm

Somebody better tell the Komets to wake up. Wins aren't going to be handed to them- they need to hustle the entire game. They were outplayed the entire game. It was almost like watching paint dry. Haun needs to stop letting the puck go through his legs, Leo had two wide open nets, and does Guy see a shot he doesn't like? These are games that we wish we would have won come April.....

Blake Sebring
Fri, 12/04/2009 - 11:56pm

Great question. I'll put my crack research team on that.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 12:10am

When you lose a 2 goal lead that is a little hard to swallow. I don't know if it is me, and I am not trying to "bash" anyone here, but Leo's play of late seems to be very sub-par. Just a general observation, but he has so much talent and he shows it in bits and pieces but never a consistent effort. I am not trying to signal out just one player because it is a team game, but I just have not seen the spark that he had a year ago. Perhaps he has gotten to "comfortable".

Frozen Water
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 12:12am

"Cup" and "Complacency" both start with the letter "C", as does "Coincidence". I wish all those "We're still just as hungry" interviews we heard at the beginning of the season weren't just talk, because that's how it's looked lately. I hope I'm as wrong on this as I'm told I am on everything else...

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 12:14am

never consistent, that's why its minor hockey, took me a while to figure that out.

Missed our two goals was with the 8 year old at the prize wheel, then the souvi stand to spend her winnings, was a good father daughter night, good memories.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 12:53am

Jeff and Blake,

I think the answer to the question is Dave Haynesworth?

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 12:53am

I missed both our goals too. Couldn't get back to my seat fast enough. Thanks for putting it all in perspective, Burgee. Win or lose, that's what it's all about. :)

Blake Sebring
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 1:24am

Frozen, welcome to my life! Now you know how I feel every day around here. LOL.

Blueline Baby
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 7:12am

Funny, I missed both goals as well. Wonder why, Wendy, Five Minute Major....? LOL! I was hoping they would not be the only ones of the night, but, oh well.

OK, since you two did not mention it, I sure notice Hulako out there with his misspelled jersey....he must have been Hawaiian last night. He was hustling and had a couple pretty good defensive plays in the third. We just could not get the offense going quite in time. I think it sorta killed the momentum when Haun was hurt, and the officiating was HORRIBLE. I know I can never be totally partial, but come on. There were two really badly blown calls that could have swung things (maybe, maybe not, as always).

Blake, we don't say you're wrong on everything....oh wait, that's what I just did....LOL....just kidding. I'm up too early, no coffee yet, and had to be a little pain in the butt! ;) And nope, you've not seen me in an interview yet....January sometime is my date. And yes, I am sorta a blonde....sorry for anyone who did not want to know that! I figure if Blake could talk jersey colors....oh well. Take it as the joke it was intended for. I mean no harm! Have a good day, all!

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 8:14am

I will chime in on the EM goalies: Chris Wright and 1-0 Joe Franke were both EM goaltenders. Joe Frank is without a doubt the most famous of all EM goaltenders. Chris did it several times. Parris Duffus was used more than once. I remember a kid by the name of Tim Filipaik. A local High School guy doing it. The only reason I remember him is his father was a police officer. I remember Chuck Adamson had retired and they got him out of the stands and dressed him several times when the regular goaltender got injured. I want to say in the early 70's. It took him about 20 minutes to get changed. For the life of me I can not tell you who Chuck filled in for. I am sure Chuck could. We got (I think) Toledo's goaly after the season was over for the play-offs. We used him only as a EM back-up. Toledo had been eliminated from the play-offs.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 10:10am

Hey Blueline- what momentum did we have when Haun was "hurt"? It's not like we scored a goal to take the lead. We had just been scored on and then decided we better start playing. I agree with SGriffith- Leo as well as the rest of them better play a full shift. I didn't think Hukalo played like he usually does. Maybe it wasn't him, just some guy named Hulako....

Batman W/O mask
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 10:33am

Stayzer out with concussion + Shaf out from cheap shots=GET A FIGHTER.

Batman W/O mask
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 10:38am


Sat, 12/05/2009 - 11:49am

#1 Concusions happen in hockey
#2 Fighter won't stop the dirty players from taking cheap shots because they will just do it when the fighter is not on the ice. Unless you are going to revolve the game around putting the fighter on the ice for 60 minutes. Not to mention the dirty player may not be intimidated by a fighter anyway.
#3 Komets need some young legs
#4 Tim Haun should sue for non support many nights.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 12:49pm

Another "huge" two goal outburst by the Komets. Blue Line Baby, do you recall me posting about the lack of offense on this team and even though the K's had a winning record they could not keep putting that much pressure on the defense? Well, last night was a good example of it. You stated that as long as they were winning, well, that was the important thing. I just can't figure out if the team is too old or too young. Hukalo sure didn't have a good game. He acted like his mind was somewhere else. It was a strange game as the K's scored twice in the second period and yet only had four shots on goal during the period. Quad City did not quit and should be commended for their play. I wish I could say the same for the K's. Chaulk (1 goal) needs to start putting the puck in the net, Thomas needs to show the same spark and hustle like he did last year, Guy needs to evaluate his game, and David Franke needs to start thinking of his teams effort right now. No magic is going to happen when Shafranov, Varone, MacMillan, and Boucher come off the IR. If they are thinking there will be some sort of rebirth, then they are wrong. Syro needs to thought of as not coming back at all. Did Stayzer try to fight Goulet while still suffering from a concussion? If he did, well, I have to congratulate him for his guts and intensity. If he didn't, then what we saw was the same thing over and over again. Veterans not producing + rookies that have to learn on the fly = a team that will struggle.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 1:13pm

Nice post Alan. We are getting older than most if not all of the teams in the league. We keep relying on our guys from last year without bringing in a whole lot of new talent. Maybe there isn't a whole lot of new talent out there. Of the shots on goal that we had, 4 or 5 of them were dumping the puck from the other end that happened to be on net. Can you really count those as shots? Stayzer should have been given two minutes roughing for the "fight" that he was in. Maybe we will get it together- we better play with some intensity from here on out. I hate the fact that we are constantly changing up lines every game. GO KOMETS!

Five Minute Major
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 1:31pm

Hey BB, you were the one who had to make the "pit stop" on the way back! LOL And I feel bad about the empty seat thing, the people sitting next to Mom left right after the K's second goal... but I figured you didn't want to walk all the way back over!
I did like the throwback jerseys, Hulako or no Hulako...
I think some of the K's need to play like they want to keep their jobs.
It was nice to finally meet Tim and Randi!

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 2:43pm

You did a great job, FMM! :D

And to BLB and Hulako: "Mele Kalikimaka" ;)

Well, no, we didn't have momentum in that sense when Haun was hurt. I think she just meant that they were trying to get something going, and that stopped it in its tracks and put their minds on more important things like having a teammate down.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 2:45pm

Of course, one could argue that having a teammate down and then bravely returning to the game should have motivated them even more...

Blueline Baby
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 3:07pm

FMM: Very true, I had forgotten that....LOL! Well, my bad. Then my seats were halfway around the rink. Oh well, at least they got 2 goals, whether I saw them or not! :) At least it was not a shutout!

And jonndfi, waking up and starting to play better because we were getting our butts handed to us counts to me as momentum. Unfortunately, it did not translate into any goals, but who knows what could have happened. It just felt like a momentum killer in the game to me. That's all I was trying to say. Feel free to disagree. I don't mind at all. And what's with the quotes around Haun being hurt?

Alan: So, it is better in your opinion to play better offensively than defensively, even if you lose the game? You have me so confused about this team and this sport. I think I'll just take a nap and start over tomorrow. ;)

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 3:32pm


My answer to "what Friday nights' game was like' is this. It was like watching the 1971-72 Columbus Golden Seals play the 78-79 Muskegon Mohawks. Had last night's game been my first hockey game , I would never come back.
In answer to some of the emergency goalie questions-the Komets had a goalie named Wilf Keating play game 1 of the 63-64 semifinals when Chuck Adamson could not finish. Also , Adamson came out of the stands a few times in 66-67 to replace an injured Gerry Randall. It was not not that uncommon during the 50's and 60's to have one team loan their goalie to another team for a game.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 4:01pm

Heres what I see,a hockey team with 2-3 guys playing a full game,every shift.We are getting old and don't fool yourselves in thinking there wasn't any talent to be picked up at the start of the season or even now. We all love Shaf,Chaulk,Guy,etc. But are they really helping us? In the last few games I've seen Chaulk make a few nice passes between the legs,thats not helping,put the puck on net.The defense seems stable but they can't be the soul support to winning a game,Haun looks tired,I mean he looked gassed during the shoot out,bottom line is we have to get some fresh legs,speed,3-4 guys that can put the biscuit in the basket.I know Sims does'nt like goon hockey but would it hurt to have at least one guy the other team would be worried about if they trucked our goalie,kudos for stayzer stepping up to goulet but come on really?No one else would even look at goulet the rest of the night.Yes we have guys coming back but is that enough?No.Somewhere out there is a gascon,venedam,goodwin even a danny stewart(who isnt playing right now) type of spark plug this team needs,I agree thomas energy is up and down not the same from last year.Only the Frankes have the power to make the change,we can complain all we want but it all boils down to them.They know what puts butts in the seats and that is a winning team not a lackluster back and forth sleep-athon that we are watching now.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 4:15pm

Blue Line Baby, there is no reason to be confused. Offense and defense are both important. A team needs both. For the sake of argument let's say that the K's had a record of 11-5-1 but the games they won were by a score 8-6. OK, they won the games but no one could expect them to keep winning by giving up that many goals per game. Looking at it from that scenario they would then be putting too much pressure on their offense..... As of today the K's goals per game is 2.814. The goals against per game is 2.47. The defense has been TERRIFIC. The offense has been at best disappointing..... No one disputes that wins are wins. Ultimately that is the final measurement against the rest of the league. Everyone, from Al Sims to the players, acknowledge they need to find a way to score. Chewy was brought in just for that reason. Good thing, too. I'd hate to see what would have happened without him these last six games..... I certainly do not mean to confuse you and I'm sorry if that was the result. By the way, how is your sons' team doing? You have not said much about that lately.

Blueline Baby
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 5:21pm

"bigrooter"? Of what, another team? LOL....I'm kidding, of course. I love that you stood up for Stayzer. Thank you for that. The guys in my section probably did not care for the fact that I did that last night when they ripped him. And you're right in that no one else fought him. Not last night, anyway. Remember, though, that Shrock took him on the last time we had these guys here, and held his own. Did not necessarily dominate the fight, but held his own, which is pretty impressive against that monster.

Alan: Yep, a team needs both, that is for sure. I think that does get reflected in their win/loss record. I do see your point, really I do, I guess I just see the fact that we aren't even at the halfway point, and I just don't worry too much. You worry more than I do. I must be more zen than you about these things. It's ok. And I do wish everyone would score all season long....but then someone would complain that we are too loaded with offense and that the Frankes bought the trophy again. LOL!!

And the Black Mites are rockin'. They are first place in their division. They have 11 points, next two teams tied with 7 each, and the 4th place team has 5. Jason (my kid) has 3 goals, and is coming along really well as a defenseman. He's more of a stay-at-home, hang-back, Danko-type defenseman, but he's pretty good so far playing that style. He's also ferocious at defending his goaltender, which I love. He better do it tomorrow, since this team they play hacked at our goalie pretty badly twice after the whistle. We're not allowed to check at this age, but something will be done to stop that since the refs did nothing last time. Our coach has shown them a couple things that should not land him in the penalty box (at least for too long, anyway!). Thanks for asking!

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 6:01pm

Friday's game was certainly a disappointment from several respects: 1. It appears and has throughout this season that the veteran portion of the team is slower, noticeably slower - Bertram is missing checks and being beaten to the puck, Dupuis is being out hustled and out checked, Varone while on IR was questionable for his hustle and endurance; 2. The staged type of fighting as evidenced by Stayzer many times is not the answer to spur a team into action; 3. There appears to be few if any responders when the goalie is hit as evidenced by last night and at the Bloomington game of a few weeks ago that we attended; 4. Checking is at a minimum and they appear as it they do not need to check.
Thank goodness I say for the rookies and their ability to keep the Komets in the fray.

Frozen Water
Sat, 12/05/2009 - 7:05pm

HUGE agreement with those who are saying our team has gotten old. I think a lot of people on here tend to be looking through their "Legends" goggles (They are like beer goggles, but instead of women getting better looking due to the booze, old players seem to look as if they play better due to all the memories of when they did). Several of our favorites just cannot cut it against the younger players and I'm not sure that letting them play until they decide it's time to retire is really the best decision. There seem to be a lot of people who think we can win with the same people each year just because they've won in the past, despite them losing not just a stride of the skates or two, but also the fire. There is TONS of truth behind the "eye of the tiger" when it comes to sports (no I'm not reaching for more Schrocky Balboa calls). Bash away at those of us who are seeing this all you want, but at some point the truth hurts. There looks to be a lot of people out there who would rather hear the loud cheers for the old names during the announcements of the starting line-ups as opposed to the sound of cheering after goals going into the net during games, or even possibly the cheering after seeing us lift another cup into the air. When it comes down to it, I honestly do not see this roster having the latter honor at the end of the season.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 7:12pm

So we're basically 1 point out of first in the grand scheme of things and have allowed the fewest goals and played the last 11 games with our back up goalie and.......the sky is falling? Wake me in january.

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 7:19pm

Danny Stewart is playing for the Coventry Blaze of the EIHL

Sat, 12/05/2009 - 7:49pm

Blake I have a question..Does the K's have an affilation with the Evansville hockey club? If that is a case couldn't they call up a goalie and sign him to a "tryout" contract an allow him to play?