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Who should it be?

The Komets are talking about the possibility of retiring another number next year. Whom do you think should be considered? It's way too early for G

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Thu, 04/28/2011 - 3:40pm

Personally I don't think its too early for Guy.

I really dont have any comments on whose number to retire otherwise.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 3:50pm

GUY if he doesn't play.

Blake Sebring
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 3:56pm

It's way too early for Guy. The minimum wait is supposed to be five years after your playing career.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 4:06pm

IF Guy doesn't play next year I am perfectly okay with the Komets making an exception and raising his jersey to the rafters already.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 4:13pm

No exceptions.... He can wait to take his spot up in the rafters (and he's a slam dunk to take his place up there with the other Komets greats)...

I'm not sure they need to put anyone up there right now... There have been alot of really good players who have played for the K's; but nobody I can think of right now who was great who SHOULD be up there....

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 5:06pm

IMO exceptions can be made in certain circumstances. Dupuis is a player worthy of this exception. If he retires this year, I have no problem seeing his number raised right away. 14 seasons with the Komets. Done anything and everything asked of him. Played up to or beyond expectations almost every year he wore #2 for orange and black.

I've seen exceptions made in many other sports at all different levels. Never had a problem with it then, so why would I have a problem with it for a player like Guy when considering all he has done for Fort Wayne.

Blake Sebring
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 5:09pm

So did all the other people who have had their numbers retired, and they didn't get the exception.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 5:44pm

I'd like to see #12 re-retired for Carey Lucyk. I have some sentiment for retiring #24 for Shafranov, but I think maybe he doesn't have enough years of service.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:27pm

I would think that #7 Dale Baldwin would be worthy of consideration. He played 7 or 8 seasons. Still lives and works in the Fort. He was one very tough hockey player who never took a game off.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:55pm

How about Pocky Reddick ?

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:31pm

Terry Pembroke - 12 years
Lionel Repka - 11 years
Len Thornson - 12 years
Reggie Primeau - 8 years
Eddie Long - 14 years (entire career expect for 19 games in last year) absolutely impressive. *clap clap clap*
Rob Laird - 8 years
Colin Chin - 10 years
Robbie Irons - 12 years
Steve Fletcher - 8 years
Bob Chase (retired honorary # for radio broadcaster) - BTW did he wait the minimum 5 years after retiring? Cant quite remember. Ill call in and catch him on air next time to ask.

Guy Dupuis - 14 years.. while others certainly put in their time, nobody quite like Guy. So, Blake, I think you're wrong when you say -"So did all the other people who have had their numbers retired" ....

This is 1 simple stat. All based on yrs played. 945 gp as a Komet. next closest is Eddie Long with 801... So again, Guy stands alone.

As far as playing standards lets just assume they all meet the gold standard so we don't have to dig around stats, speculation, and anything too rich in opinion.

So once more, IMO, even if based on time served alone, Guy had something extra. Perhaps something extra enough that would permit the minimum 5 year wait to be waived.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:40pm

Just something further for Guy is his 4 championships with the Komets. Not too shabby. Forgive me if some stats got away from me on yrs played or games.. late, and multitasking here. If i was way off on anything don't yell at me too hard.. just fill me in.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:44pm

Oh, caught a slight over sight... I did not record play-off games.. So before someone says Pembroke played 864 and Long played 866.. subtract the playoffs from that.. my totals above were regular season only

Hockey Fan for Life
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:23pm

# 21 Steve Salvucci. An all around player. Could score goals, assists and fight. A great player.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:28pm

I am also for Guy next year....I may be quite critical of his play over the past 2 years, but for the other 12, he was the man, and has been arguably the best face of the franchise and possibly captain in the history of this team. From all the charity work that he does in the community, to just carrying himself well on and off the ice, I say put #2 up in the rafters whenever he retires.

If I were to pick another Komet to hang up in the rafters, personally I would pick Ian Boyce or Grant Richison. Both played 7 or 8 years here and were pretty big parts of the teams that dominated the 90's.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:40pm

I agree with Blake on this one...

komets123, I think what Blake is saying is that every other player who's number is hanging in the rafters is just as deserving as Guy to be there and they all waited and didnt receive an exception... To give Guy an exception would be saying that he is head and shoulders better than everyone else up there, and thats just not true... They are/were all great Komets...

Also, knowing the kind of person that Guy is, I doubt he would want an exception. He is too humble of an hockey player to allow himself to be put before those others... IMO..

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 9:33pm

#28 Robin Bawa, #8 Ian Boyce,#4 Grant Richison

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:04pm

#2 Guy Dupuis

But who am i to say, i'm just a fan of the greatest franchise in minor league sports history.

But, if he plays another year i think he could be close to setting the games played record for minor league hockey, he is pretty close.

Blake is an expert on the Komets but he can't be a fan, its not allowed.

So who do they retire numbers for? the individual, the organization, the league, the sport? No, not in minor hockey... they do it for the fans, they do it for me because i live and die with each win and loss, they do it for mike in toronto, our troops around the world, mightbite so he can buy more jerseys, some little kid around town so when he laces em up as a komet he can say i saw that man - i want my name up there just like him.

But i don't have a say in this, i'm just a fan, my opinion doesn't count, but i'm sure proud to know of all those names and history hanging from the rafters, i look up there each game, because i'm a fan, those are my Komets up there and on the bench, my championships, my Komets and your Komets.

Schebig your not allowed to blog, $100 fine, mail to:

Blake Sebring
Fort Wayne Hair Club for Men
PO Box 102
Fort Wayne, IN 46801

Cash only

I want Flint back, i miss Savage whining about Fort Wayne having lighting in their arena, heat, toilet paper in the john...among other things.

Mr. Snufflupugus
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:26pm

Dupuis and Chaulk will get their due when time comes.
No exception should be made time wise. Doesn't mean anyone else has to wear their number before the retirement is official.

On Boucher.... first instinct told me yes. But considering he split playing time during the regular season I am not sure his number stack up. Did they win in the playoffs BECAUSE of his goaltending or was he just a piece of the puzzle.
I can't honestly remember too many games that he stole. He was just a steady piece of the puzzle. So was PC and I would never retire his number.
Convince me Boucher should be raised and I will listen. Other than that hopefully we see Chaulk and Guy in 5 years although I am sure Chaulk will delay his by another year or two.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 11:04pm

I agree there should be a waiting period before anyone's sweater number is retired.

Look how many years passed before my brother in-law's number was retired..it was several years before it happened.

Everyone that has been honored played the majority of their career here in Fort Wayne, and that is one of the criteria. In my opinion (for the $0.02 it's worth...) Dupuis and possibly Chaulk, will be the last numbers retired at least during my lifetime because players do not spend 7, 10, 15 years with one franchise anymore...it's just another fact of life.

Besides that, you cannot retire every number...you'll run out of numbers to sew on the sweater....:)

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 11:40pm

I just dont want to become the 'Montreal' of minor league hockey where all the players are eventually all wearing numbers in the 60's because all the lower numbers are retired...lol

Fri, 04/29/2011 - 8:15am

Terry McDougal - #19 already in the Komet Hall of Fame

644 points in just over 6 seasons

1978-1979 season -
McDougal 139 points, Dumba - 111 points, Laird - 107 points.

What a line this was!

Mr. Snufflupugus
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 8:58am

JR1 I agree with you on this.. That is why I have talked myself out of Boucher.
Good goalie? Of course. Very good goalie? Yes he was.
GREAT goalie? Well....an ounce of doubt crosses my mind and to me the minute that happens you don't bestow the honor of a jersey hanging.

I will get hung for this I know but I was one of the few that questioned raising Fletchers jersey. LOVED watching him even though I am not a big fight fan. Even though he was an enforcer he played the game the right way. I don't remember him sucker punching anyone or using his stick as a spear etc. Maybe I missed it but I remember him as a guy who would go toe to toe with anyone. That said he wasn't a GREAT player. I understand why they did it. He is an all time fan favorite and a legend for what he did. And I am not saying for sure they shouldn't have. But there was room to question it.

Hockey Fan
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 10:07am

Well I think since fletch go his number up there. Why not just give it to Jeff W and Andy Bez.

Mr. Snufflupugus
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 10:59am

Hockey Fan I think that people who think Fletch was a slam dunk for it would tell you that the big difference was how long he played in Fort Wayne and what kind of a person he was on and off the ice.

Fletcher had the respect of even those he fought against.

Andy Bozo was a clown side show. A true goon in every sense of the word and a loose cannon on and off the ice.

Worlton was actually a nice guy and worked very hard despite limited hockey ability. I had alot of respect for him. But he wasn't around long enough.

Mr. Snufflupugus
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 11:00am

And BTW...I own (and still wear) one of those Fletcher 77 Komet hats so people don't get on my case too badly on this lol.

Fri, 04/29/2011 - 11:11am

I'm kind of on the border on this 'cause I agree with Blake about making exceptions to the rule. It makes for a slippery slope in the future.

However sometimes people, circumstances, history, and opportunity come crashing together from time to time when it is impossible not to recognize and honor achievement.

My thought is this. Whether or not Guy Dupuis decides to retire or play, retire his #2 and raise it to the rafters. If he retires then no one will wear it again. If he plays, then he, and he alone will wear the honored number until he officially retires.

Certainly fitting for a gentleman who has given so much for the team and the community.

Anyone agree or have a problem with my thought?

Fri, 04/29/2011 - 11:48am

I guess I'll be the dumb one who asks, but why do they have to retire a number to start with? Just because it's the 60th year? It kind of sounds like they are doing this because they are "supposed to" as opposed to anyone really deserving it at this point. If that's the case, then your "slippery slopes" are already there.

Mr. Snufflupugus
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 12:45pm

Alan my only question is, what is the rush?
If the NHL Hall of Shameonthem could not see fit to put Pat Burns in before he died knowing full well he was going to get there eventually then why should the Komets be in any hurry to raise #2 to the rafters. We all know it will happen. Buddha willing Guy is a healthy guy with many years ahead of him that will allow him to be there to see it done 5 years after he retires.
But who knows... he and Chaulk may play well into their 90s so my opinion may change in a few years ;)

Mr. Snufflupugus
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 12:47pm

RK no they dont.
I would be happy if they did an "all 60 years team" or even an "all decade team" to cover the last 10 years. Have a nice pregame ceremony opening night since there will be no banner to raise and then get on with the season.