I hope David Franke has a great vacation. Sometimes you just have to get away from everything and recharge the batteries.
One thing he mentions is about bringing too many players in from the championship teams to the CHL. I find it to be a constant, when reading other GM's or coach's thoughts, when they talk about bringing in a "core" group of guys. I'm surprised how they spin it ( although I shouldn't be). As a GM , my goal is to make my team better. If you can do that with players that are good, that the fans are familiar with, well, that would be terrific. Unfortunately that doesn't work all that often. The 2010-2011 team was a prime example. Bringing in a group of players from the previous years' team, then making it sound like a core group of guys are returning, can backfire in a hurry. I'm more concerned with quality than quantity. We'll find out their thinking as they start to announce signings.
His statement, " this is a perfect storm for the players" reveals a lot of truths as the players and their agents search out new opportunities. I would submit that this may be a "perfect storm" for the Komets also.
The Komets have a lot of things to offer potential players. 1) They have a great reputation as a franchise that takes care of their own and is run in an extremely professional manner, 2) they have won four championships in five years playing in two different leagues, 3) the facts prove that it is easier to get spotted for a call-up to the AHL from the ECHL than the CHL, and 4) they will be playing in front of large crowds.
You guys can come up with more things, I'm sure. However, if I'm the GM and I'm prospecting, I'm selling the features, advantages, and benefits of being a Fort Wayne Komet. There are plenty of each and when dealing in a salary cap world, those can make the difference.
KometKrazy
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 10:17am
I know I said I was done posting but I wanted to comment and will try and keep my nose clean. I would have to agree with Alan on this. What young up and coming player wouldn't want to play in Fort Wayne for the Komets? Which brings me to a question Blake. Lets say a young player such as Brandon Marino wanted to come to the Komets. Does Quad City have rights to him? Would the Komets have any shot of signing a player like him? The CHL has no affiliations as far as I know with the AHL or NHL and a good young player might be stuck in a situation where he can't move up the ladder. The ECHL can provide that for him. Also other than Vaskivuo has any other Komets signed with anyone else? The CHL teams have already announced player signings and I haven't heard of any othe player moving to another team. If not this may lead me to believe that the players themselves would like to stay here and/or the Komets want them back. I know moving to a new league makes all the players free agents and they are free to go where they want. I know some of them may be weighing other offers but seems to me the offers they may have gotten already may not stack up to what they want or what the Komets can do. Lets don't forget the salary cap in the ECHL is about $2000 higher I think than the ECHL. That may enough to keep the main core group and some of the younger players from this past championship team.
As far as who to bring back I can see about 10-12 players back from this past team and bringing in 10-12 new players to fight for the remaining roster spots as well as any players the Komets may get from any affiliation the may sign up for. I can see 2-3 new defensemen and 3-4 new centers and forwards and good young goalie to backup Bouch. I like Festa but he's around 30 and they need someone who is 24-25. This years team had a lot of newer players who had never played for the Komets before and if you bring back quite a few of those I don't see the complacentcy that occurred with the 2010-2011 team. That team had too many older players I felt from the IHL teams.
Anyway anybody planning on a trip to Orlando for the Dec. 7-9 games? I am with a couple of friends. It helps that I have family there who we can stay with. Kill 2 birds with one stone I say.
Blake Sebring
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 11:51am
QC has the CHL rights to him, not the ECHL.
Every year the over/under to bringing players back is 10, and this year I see less than 10.
dropthegloves
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 1:46pm
Blake, in your OPINION. I don't know if your allowed to say, but who would you want or look at to keep? I know its still way early, but others can chime in too.
dropthegloves
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 1:47pm
Another question! Does anyone know, how long the ECHL teams have players rights on there protected list?
No More Silly Season
Mon, 06/04/2012 - 3:33pm
Protected list means nothing. Don't even pay attention to it. Future considerations trades still have to be finalized by June 13th and the season ending rosters have to be submitted by June 15th. This is why no signings can be announced until June 16th. Then at the end of June/beginning of July the Qualifying Offers are announced. Here's last years qualifying offers list.
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I hope David Franke has a great vacation. Sometimes you just have to get away from everything and recharge the batteries.
One thing he mentions is about bringing too many players in from the championship teams to the CHL. I find it to be a constant, when reading other GM's or coach's thoughts, when they talk about bringing in a "core" group of guys. I'm surprised how they spin it ( although I shouldn't be). As a GM , my goal is to make my team better. If you can do that with players that are good, that the fans are familiar with, well, that would be terrific. Unfortunately that doesn't work all that often. The 2010-2011 team was a prime example. Bringing in a group of players from the previous years' team, then making it sound like a core group of guys are returning, can backfire in a hurry. I'm more concerned with quality than quantity. We'll find out their thinking as they start to announce signings.
His statement, " this is a perfect storm for the players" reveals a lot of truths as the players and their agents search out new opportunities. I would submit that this may be a "perfect storm" for the Komets also.
The Komets have a lot of things to offer potential players. 1) They have a great reputation as a franchise that takes care of their own and is run in an extremely professional manner, 2) they have won four championships in five years playing in two different leagues, 3) the facts prove that it is easier to get spotted for a call-up to the AHL from the ECHL than the CHL, and 4) they will be playing in front of large crowds.
You guys can come up with more things, I'm sure. However, if I'm the GM and I'm prospecting, I'm selling the features, advantages, and benefits of being a Fort Wayne Komet. There are plenty of each and when dealing in a salary cap world, those can make the difference.
I know I said I was done posting but I wanted to comment and will try and keep my nose clean. I would have to agree with Alan on this. What young up and coming player wouldn't want to play in Fort Wayne for the Komets? Which brings me to a question Blake. Lets say a young player such as Brandon Marino wanted to come to the Komets. Does Quad City have rights to him? Would the Komets have any shot of signing a player like him? The CHL has no affiliations as far as I know with the AHL or NHL and a good young player might be stuck in a situation where he can't move up the ladder. The ECHL can provide that for him. Also other than Vaskivuo has any other Komets signed with anyone else? The CHL teams have already announced player signings and I haven't heard of any othe player moving to another team. If not this may lead me to believe that the players themselves would like to stay here and/or the Komets want them back. I know moving to a new league makes all the players free agents and they are free to go where they want. I know some of them may be weighing other offers but seems to me the offers they may have gotten already may not stack up to what they want or what the Komets can do. Lets don't forget the salary cap in the ECHL is about $2000 higher I think than the ECHL. That may enough to keep the main core group and some of the younger players from this past championship team.
As far as who to bring back I can see about 10-12 players back from this past team and bringing in 10-12 new players to fight for the remaining roster spots as well as any players the Komets may get from any affiliation the may sign up for. I can see 2-3 new defensemen and 3-4 new centers and forwards and good young goalie to backup Bouch. I like Festa but he's around 30 and they need someone who is 24-25. This years team had a lot of newer players who had never played for the Komets before and if you bring back quite a few of those I don't see the complacentcy that occurred with the 2010-2011 team. That team had too many older players I felt from the IHL teams.
Anyway anybody planning on a trip to Orlando for the Dec. 7-9 games? I am with a couple of friends. It helps that I have family there who we can stay with. Kill 2 birds with one stone I say.
QC has the CHL rights to him, not the ECHL.
Every year the over/under to bringing players back is 10, and this year I see less than 10.
Blake, in your OPINION. I don't know if your allowed to say, but who would you want or look at to keep? I know its still way early, but others can chime in too.
Another question! Does anyone know, how long the ECHL teams have players rights on there protected list?
Protected list means nothing. Don't even pay attention to it. Future considerations trades still have to be finalized by June 13th and the season ending rosters have to be submitted by June 15th. This is why no signings can be announced until June 16th. Then at the end of June/beginning of July the Qualifying Offers are announced. Here's last years qualifying offers list.
http://www.echl.com/echl-announces-players-with-qualifying-offers-p171474