I'm not sold on Marino. I'm not convinced Marino could play in Al Sims' system. I know he puts up points, but let's see a littl defense sometime, too. Last year was the only time he's put up points in his entire career. Fluke?
Alan
Thu, 07/12/2012 - 10:01am
I'm with Adam.
I'm a little surprised by Blake's comment.
Under the thread "Wednesday's Komet Stories" I placed a comment. It was placed on July 4th and it dealt with komets I would like to see back and opponents I would like to see signed. Amongst others I specifically mentioned both Brandon Marino and Eric Giosa of Quad City.
Blake mentions he "is not sold" on Marino playing under Al Sims' systems. I'm a little startled at that as I view Marino as very, very close to the consumate "ECHL type of player". He is young, quick, skilled, and has proven to be a pretty good scorer. Forgive me if my memory has failed me, but wasn't he either CHL league MVP or runner-up?
My own opinion on this is whenever I hear or read that a player doesn't "fit" under the systems and expectations of Al Sims, it usually means he doesn't play both ends of the ice.
Well, here are the statistics for both Marino and Giosa:
Marino- 65 games played. 41 goals, 49 assists, a +9.
Giosa- 64 games played. 28 goals, 42 assists, a +3.
Don't get me wrong. I love the Giosa signing ( and the Maggio signing also) but I don't understand why Marino wouldn't be at the top of their list also. ( In fact, a couple weeks ago I spoke to an excellent source that confirmed they were talking to him). Has that changed?
Do you have some info on this, Blake? Sure would like to consider your reasons or if you've learned something new.
Well, I guess I've done it again. First overanalyzed everything and then wrote a book.
Blake Sebring
Thu, 07/12/2012 - 12:05pm
Just feel like Marino has had only one good year where he's scored more than 50 points and wasn't that impressed with him against the Komets. He had 12 points in nine games, but was minus-four. Six of his points came on the power play.
What do I know? Giosa wasn't that good against the Komets this year, either, but I like his style of play better.
All that said, my gut says the Komets will try to sign him.
Blake Sebring
Thu, 07/12/2012 - 12:33pm
Not the first time I've had a differing opinion on a player, won't be the last. Certainly doesn't mean I'm right all the time, either.
Alan
Thu, 07/12/2012 - 1:16pm
Thanks for responding, Blake.
I think the K's are off to a good start so far. I'm pretty sure that they have other signings in their hip pocket. For various reasons they like to spread the announcements out. Very understandable. Maybe the Giosa announcement was to help facilitate Marino's decision. Who knows?
Adam
Thu, 07/12/2012 - 4:23pm
Was the 12 points against the K's the most for his team? And Alan yes he was the MVP...pretty sure he was. I just recall Mallard fans all excited about their MVP but could care less about missing the playoffs.
Also and I could be wrong but maybe the point production had something to do with the Coaching change or line combination compared to Anzalone days and last year with Bell at the helm.
Even if he came in and put up 40-60 points I think he's worth a look in camp. Obviously he has to make the team first.
Jeremy Enright
Fri, 07/13/2012 - 3:20pm
Blake, the K's were pretty good last year lol. I don't think there were many guys that did play well against the K's. But, in your defense, guys like Naurato and Patrosso looked like All-Stars before and after their time in Fort Wayne and didn't fit here or play all that well while they played here. So, I think there is something to be said about Sims' style. It certainly does seem like it requires a specific skill-set or mentality that not all guys fit well in. I'm willing to take a gamble on the reigning CHL MVP. On the optimistic side, think of what he could have done last year with more talent around him. For instance, with Chaulk. Everybody gets better when they're on a line with Chaulk. I think Giosa knows it, and that's why he signed here.
Orange_koolaid
Sat, 07/14/2012 - 2:21am
Jeremy, Sims wants his players to play both ends of the ice which may tax a few aggressive points. With that being said, Quad City did have good D last year so players such as Giosa will fit in. Marino may still put up some #'s, it just depends on how well he adapts to playing sacrificial hockey at times. That's why players such as Greenville and Nauroto weren't happy here. Its systems and trust in timely offense or get out of town.
OrangeKrush
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 7:28pm
Facts are always important, Greenville never played for Sims.
JR1
Mon, 07/16/2012 - 10:01am
But Greenville did play for another defensive minded coach in Puhalski...... If he wasnt happy, he didnt let it show on the ice..........IMO
Jeremy Enright
Mon, 07/16/2012 - 12:12pm
Orange_koolaid.... I certainly agree with you on Sims' style. After reading my post again, I realized it sounded like a complaint about Sims' style. It wasn't meant in a negative way, nor was it a complaint. Can't complain much about 4 titles in 5 years lol.
Right to everyone. This organization puts character on ice and gives no one handouts bc of past pride. They've really protected the good, great face of Komet Hockey and they've sown and now reap the benefit for all they've put into this organization. I may be a Komet fan but I would feel the same if I wasn't. Echl is going to be fun and we've got work to do and prepared already. Go Komets.
Komet Kombatant
Mon, 07/16/2012 - 9:30pm
My brother saw Rizk and Thorne at a local diner eating with a Chief.......
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Bring on Marino now!
I'm not sold on Marino. I'm not convinced Marino could play in Al Sims' system. I know he puts up points, but let's see a littl defense sometime, too. Last year was the only time he's put up points in his entire career. Fluke?
I'm with Adam.
I'm a little surprised by Blake's comment.
Under the thread "Wednesday's Komet Stories" I placed a comment. It was placed on July 4th and it dealt with komets I would like to see back and opponents I would like to see signed. Amongst others I specifically mentioned both Brandon Marino and Eric Giosa of Quad City.
Blake mentions he "is not sold" on Marino playing under Al Sims' systems. I'm a little startled at that as I view Marino as very, very close to the consumate "ECHL type of player". He is young, quick, skilled, and has proven to be a pretty good scorer. Forgive me if my memory has failed me, but wasn't he either CHL league MVP or runner-up?
My own opinion on this is whenever I hear or read that a player doesn't "fit" under the systems and expectations of Al Sims, it usually means he doesn't play both ends of the ice.
Well, here are the statistics for both Marino and Giosa:
Marino- 65 games played. 41 goals, 49 assists, a +9.
Giosa- 64 games played. 28 goals, 42 assists, a +3.
Don't get me wrong. I love the Giosa signing ( and the Maggio signing also) but I don't understand why Marino wouldn't be at the top of their list also. ( In fact, a couple weeks ago I spoke to an excellent source that confirmed they were talking to him). Has that changed?
Do you have some info on this, Blake? Sure would like to consider your reasons or if you've learned something new.
Well, I guess I've done it again. First overanalyzed everything and then wrote a book.
Just feel like Marino has had only one good year where he's scored more than 50 points and wasn't that impressed with him against the Komets. He had 12 points in nine games, but was minus-four. Six of his points came on the power play.
What do I know? Giosa wasn't that good against the Komets this year, either, but I like his style of play better.
All that said, my gut says the Komets will try to sign him.
Not the first time I've had a differing opinion on a player, won't be the last. Certainly doesn't mean I'm right all the time, either.
Thanks for responding, Blake.
I think the K's are off to a good start so far. I'm pretty sure that they have other signings in their hip pocket. For various reasons they like to spread the announcements out. Very understandable. Maybe the Giosa announcement was to help facilitate Marino's decision. Who knows?
Was the 12 points against the K's the most for his team? And Alan yes he was the MVP...pretty sure he was. I just recall Mallard fans all excited about their MVP but could care less about missing the playoffs.
Also and I could be wrong but maybe the point production had something to do with the Coaching change or line combination compared to Anzalone days and last year with Bell at the helm.
Even if he came in and put up 40-60 points I think he's worth a look in camp. Obviously he has to make the team first.
Blake, the K's were pretty good last year lol. I don't think there were many guys that did play well against the K's. But, in your defense, guys like Naurato and Patrosso looked like All-Stars before and after their time in Fort Wayne and didn't fit here or play all that well while they played here. So, I think there is something to be said about Sims' style. It certainly does seem like it requires a specific skill-set or mentality that not all guys fit well in. I'm willing to take a gamble on the reigning CHL MVP. On the optimistic side, think of what he could have done last year with more talent around him. For instance, with Chaulk. Everybody gets better when they're on a line with Chaulk. I think Giosa knows it, and that's why he signed here.
Jeremy, Sims wants his players to play both ends of the ice which may tax a few aggressive points. With that being said, Quad City did have good D last year so players such as Giosa will fit in. Marino may still put up some #'s, it just depends on how well he adapts to playing sacrificial hockey at times. That's why players such as Greenville and Nauroto weren't happy here. Its systems and trust in timely offense or get out of town.
Facts are always important, Greenville never played for Sims.
But Greenville did play for another defensive minded coach in Puhalski...... If he wasnt happy, he didnt let it show on the ice..........IMO
Orange_koolaid.... I certainly agree with you on Sims' style. After reading my post again, I realized it sounded like a complaint about Sims' style. It wasn't meant in a negative way, nor was it a complaint. Can't complain much about 4 titles in 5 years lol.
I liked Grenville. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0019932005.html
He played good for the Chief....
Right to everyone. This organization puts character on ice and gives no one handouts bc of past pride. They've really protected the good, great face of Komet Hockey and they've sown and now reap the benefit for all they've put into this organization. I may be a Komet fan but I would feel the same if I wasn't. Echl is going to be fun and we've got work to do and prepared already. Go Komets.
My brother saw Rizk and Thorne at a local diner eating with a Chief.......