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A lawless town

How bad can a city get? This bad:

Fox News reports that nearly 400 off-duty Detroit police officers were handing out fliers with a somewhat frightening message. It said "Attention: Enter Detroit at Your Own Risk" and warned that Detroit is America's most violent city and that the police department is grossly understaffed.
A fact check of that statement shows that Detroit is actually the second most dangerous city behind it's neighbor to the Northwest, Flint. That's according to F.B.I. Crime data released earlier this year.

Oh, well, phew! then. Guess I'll take that vacation in Detroit instead of Flint.


tim zank
Mon, 10/08/2012 - 3:58pm

Heh...not exactly a shock...the top ten:




All Democrat/Liberal/Progressive run strongholds...


Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:46am

If you look at states, rather than cities, the crime rate is higher in red states.


Harl Delos
Tue, 10/09/2012 - 12:00pm

Hoe many big cities are red?  How many rural states are blue?

If you'restacked like cordwood, you want regulations to protect you from your neighbors.  If you're 20 miles from the bearest Coke machine, you're forced to be pretty-much self-sufficient.  And when people in one environment don't understand life in the other,you're going to have problems.

  If you'tr going to avoid Detroit and Flint, you should avoid Fort Wayne as well.  Georgetown (intersection of SR37 and SR101) might be a better bet.


tim zank
Tue, 10/09/2012 - 4:56pm

Yeah, and if you look at apples instead of oranges they're a different color too Littlejohn...jesus, talk about changing the subject, just admit it, the top ten worst crime cities are long time democrat strongholds entrenched (mired actually) in terminal handouts that only perpetuate the poverty...

There is no denying it anymore...liberal giveaways (in the trillions now) haven't worked, they made it worse...

Christopher Swing
Tue, 10/09/2012 - 11:22pm

Zank, you still haven't shown why there's any causal link between the current political leanings of a city and the crime rate, barring other factors.

Unless you think correlation is causation, but only idiots believe that.

Detroit here sounds more like a case of the biggest gang in the city using scare tactics to get what they want. Since it's Detroit in the first place, the police can't go with their usual "nice city you've got there, shame anything should happen to it" line.

tim zank
Wed, 10/10/2012 - 2:12pm

Let's try a Swing worthy question and answer:

Is Detroit a crime ridden sh*t hole?

Who has been "in charge" of Detroit forever?

You just argue for the sake of arguing....good plan...

Christopher Swing
Sun, 10/14/2012 - 10:39am

And what are the actual factors that lead to Detroit to being "a crime-ridden shithole?"

Clue: the attitude and the tactics we see from the cops here might be a clue to one of them.

Sometimes I think you just reply to these blog entries just to repeat a talking point, Zank.

tim zank
Sun, 10/14/2012 - 5:45pm

Swinkles posits: "Clue: the attitude and the tactics we see from the cops here might be a clue to one of them."

In DeRiot it's:

Democrat Cops

Democrat Councils

Democrat Mayors


See a trend there?

Game, Set, Match...


Mon, 10/15/2012 - 9:39am

As with dogs and chimpanzees, Tim is incapable of grasping the concept of causation. It isn't mere correlation.

Otherwise, I could make the following argument:

Terrorists attack World Trade Center with jumbo jets.

President: Republican.

Vice Pres: Republican.

Cabinet: Republican.

Game, set, match.

BTW, how do you know the Detroit cops are Democrats? You don't, of course, but truth plays no role in your "arguments."

tim zank
Mon, 10/15/2012 - 2:08pm

You've really kind of tossed in the towel on making common sense a factor in your arguments haven't you LittleJohn?


Harl Delos
Mon, 10/15/2012 - 10:27pm

You'll notice that it's the reported crime rate that's being compared, not the actual crime rate or  the solved crime rate.

And economists report that the crime rate is closely correlated with unwanted babies, rather than with the likelihood of catching criminals, the probability of convicting them or the cruelty imposed upon them.  (Although it sure makes me smile a little when evil people get their comeuppance, that's entertainment for the masses, not deterrence.)

When the crime rate dropped, it dropped first in states which legalized elective abortion first, it dropped less in states where abortion is not as readily available, and has dropped least in communities where poverty, drug use, and lack of comprehensive health insurance is more common.  There are multiple causes for crime, but "failure to attach" between mother and child appears to be the dominant means of breeding criminals.

Not to say there aren't other factors.  Paulding County was featured in one of the mass market magazines - Life, Colliers, Saturday Evening Post or some like that - at one time for having the second-highest unsolved murder rate in the country.  The Purple Gang would kill people in Detroit and dump the bodies in rural Paulding County.  The sheriff said he wasn't about to burden Paulding County taxpayers with the cost of solving Detroit murders.  '

The mayor of Detroit ought to declare war on the US so that the Department of Defense would engage in nation-building there instead of Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.  So far, nobody's done very much to rebuild from the riots of the 1960s....