I'm against ownership 100% this time.... Players made huge concessions last time around (also owner lockout) and the league saw unprecedented growth... Teams sign players to record contracts this offseason and then cry poor at CBA meetings?
If they cancel the Winter Classic, they may as well cancel the rest of the season because the damage will be irreversable, IMO...
Blake Sebring
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 3:39pm
stop the presses!!!!! JR and I actually agree on something!
Crap, I must be dead wrong. LOL.
JR1
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 4:25pm
Hmmmmm, where did I put that can of Whoop Butt?????
Ha ha ha...
DAL
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 5:31pm
Both are at fault. Still takes both sides to come to an agreement.. As far as I am still concerned, the players want nothing more than to double dip. If they want larger contracts they need to conceed the income gained from league revenues.. Would be like me telling my boss I want a pay increase and then I want to be offered profit sharing from the company... Greedy maybe?
JR1
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 6:18pm
DAL, are you part of a union where you work?
Hawk Fan
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 6:48pm
Both sides are to blame. They are all greedy. If fans are smart they will stay away from the nhl if and when they get back to playing.
Ron
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 8:16pm
Has there ever been a professional sports labor action where the fans didn't eventually come back? None of the lockouts or strikes have had any lasting effect. It's like when a store quits selling your favorite candy bar for whatever reason, and it's not available anywhere else, so you get grumpy and bad mouth the store because you can't get the candy bar you want. But after a while, they start selling it again. You still harbor ill feelings toward the store, but doggonit, you love that candy bar so eventually you go back and start buying it again. Eventually the owners and players will tire out and reach a deal that neither one is particularly happy with, and we'll come back. In the meantime, think of all the money you've saved not buying candy bars!
mike from Toronto
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 9:26pm
The owners have more responsibility this time around. A key issue, for both sides will be the teams that are fringe in franchise strength. Phoenix, Tampa, Florida and there are a few more. Both sides stand to lose a great deal if these cities are out too long.
Most teams will get their fans back in a reasonable amount of time. But I believe this situation will be more like the last baseball strike. It will take more time for this one to heal. Economies are still not great and we watch owners and players get rich together on our dime.
I am not a huge NHL fan. OHL is very close by and they are fun to watch. Plus, I will take the Komets every time I get a chance to drive down.
JR1
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 5:11am
These proposal's arent one page documents.....so how can the league turn down 3 different ones in 10 minutes???
This tells me the owner's have had a "my way or the highway" negotiating tactic to this point and are NOT there to find common ground...
Greg
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 7:12am
I with the owners on this one. Bottom line for me is the owners are the ones running the business and if they need to cut salary then that's what they need to do.
Alan
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 2:37pm
I'm kinda on the players side this time. Donald Fehr vs. Gary Bettman? Nothing is going to get by Fehr.
Hawk Fan
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 7:36pm
Some people on here make no sense at all. Can you figure out who it is ? And no, it's not me. I hope.
Comments
I'm against ownership 100% this time.... Players made huge concessions last time around (also owner lockout) and the league saw unprecedented growth... Teams sign players to record contracts this offseason and then cry poor at CBA meetings?
If they cancel the Winter Classic, they may as well cancel the rest of the season because the damage will be irreversable, IMO...
stop the presses!!!!! JR and I actually agree on something!
Crap, I must be dead wrong. LOL.
Hmmmmm, where did I put that can of Whoop Butt?????
Ha ha ha...
Both are at fault. Still takes both sides to come to an agreement.. As far as I am still concerned, the players want nothing more than to double dip. If they want larger contracts they need to conceed the income gained from league revenues.. Would be like me telling my boss I want a pay increase and then I want to be offered profit sharing from the company... Greedy maybe?
DAL, are you part of a union where you work?
Both sides are to blame. They are all greedy. If fans are smart they will stay away from the nhl if and when they get back to playing.
Has there ever been a professional sports labor action where the fans didn't eventually come back? None of the lockouts or strikes have had any lasting effect. It's like when a store quits selling your favorite candy bar for whatever reason, and it's not available anywhere else, so you get grumpy and bad mouth the store because you can't get the candy bar you want. But after a while, they start selling it again. You still harbor ill feelings toward the store, but doggonit, you love that candy bar so eventually you go back and start buying it again. Eventually the owners and players will tire out and reach a deal that neither one is particularly happy with, and we'll come back. In the meantime, think of all the money you've saved not buying candy bars!
The owners have more responsibility this time around. A key issue, for both sides will be the teams that are fringe in franchise strength. Phoenix, Tampa, Florida and there are a few more. Both sides stand to lose a great deal if these cities are out too long.
Most teams will get their fans back in a reasonable amount of time. But I believe this situation will be more like the last baseball strike. It will take more time for this one to heal. Economies are still not great and we watch owners and players get rich together on our dime.
I am not a huge NHL fan. OHL is very close by and they are fun to watch. Plus, I will take the Komets every time I get a chance to drive down.
These proposal's arent one page documents.....so how can the league turn down 3 different ones in 10 minutes???
This tells me the owner's have had a "my way or the highway" negotiating tactic to this point and are NOT there to find common ground...
I with the owners on this one. Bottom line for me is the owners are the ones running the business and if they need to cut salary then that's what they need to do.
I'm kinda on the players side this time. Donald Fehr vs. Gary Bettman? Nothing is going to get by Fehr.
Some people on here make no sense at all. Can you figure out who it is ? And no, it's not me. I hope.
All I know is now I want a candy bar!!!