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Tailing the Komets

Looking at the numbers of Komets' home woes


Tue, 03/11/2014 - 7:15am

Unfortunately, I don't see anything happening any differently unless we have some different players.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 8:38am

Should be interesting this weekend.. Southern just got called up...hmmmm...best of luck Sought!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 8:41am

Correction... Southy! Darn spell correct.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 8:46am

Goalies get left holding the tab, I guess...

No mention of:

1. Coaching... teams make adjustments late and the Komets do not.
2. Fatigue... komets cannot keep their foot on the gas the entire game because they are on empty come the third period dye to their run and gun stule.
3. Size matters... and adds to #2. Other teams play more physical in our barn than the Komets and that physically wears down our smaller forwards...
4. Defense... seems to me they jump into the offensive play much more at home, giving the other team more breakaways. They also screen their own goalies A LOT.
Personnel... When healthy, the Komets have 2 lines, at best... right now, 1... they have tried to make due with players most teams would have waived or traded in November...

Many problems with this team other than home goaltending...imo

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 11:12am

I have not seen that Southorn got called up. Do you know where to?

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 11:44am

Do you have a degree in statistics?

If not, how do you back up all those numbers?

(proudly tweaking people since 1975-ish)

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 5:39pm

K's waived Gates today surprised they let him go with Southorn being called up must have a lot of confidence in the kid they signed last week.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 6:30pm

Well done JR1 - one off the better analisys I've read here.

Blake Sebring
Tue, 03/11/2014 - 7:54pm

Then they must be doing all those things perfectly on the road, right? How does that make any sense?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 8:32am

Well the first thing that comes to me is that our home ice is one of the larger ice surfaces. More distance to cover. Also the large surface makes for a totally different game - witness the difference in the way Canada played in the Olympics to win gold. Thoughts?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:36am

Many times Blake and I haven't seen "eye to eye" on things.  Usually its on an agree to disagree basis.

...but on this one, I think he's totally correct.  The stats (road vs home), just boggle the mind.  If anything in pro sports, you build your team for your own arena.  I don't have any idea the road record of the Komets this year versus a team with a smaller ice surface.  It would have a lot of intangibles.  For example, how many road games are played on a smaller ice surface and how did they do?  What  was the record of the opponent at the time?   I mean there are so many things to analyze it would drive you crazy.

No team ever goes into a season expecting to win more games on the road than they do at home.  Quite the opposite.  In fact, I believe if the Komets started the season knowing that their road record would be what it is today, they would've jumped at the chance of taking it, thinking that it would propel them to a division championship.

There is something "more" to it and I don't have the answers.  I'm not sure anyone does, and that is what makes it so perplexing.

I know one thing, however.  No one goes into the season fighting for the road ice advantage.



Wed, 03/12/2014 - 3:06pm

I would like to see proof that the ice surface in Fort Wayne is considered one of the larger ice surfaces in the league. The team (Komets) states that the ice surface is a conventional 200'x85. I know players have mentioned otherwise. 

As a fan from Kalamazoo, both rinks appear the same size to me as a stadrad viewer. Maybe it is the more intimate setting in Kalamazoo that makes the ice appear smaller. There was a post many years back where they actually measured the ice surface in Kalmazoo prior to a playoff game to prove it was the standard size. In Olympic sized rinks the faceoff circles are much further from the side walls. In pictures of both Mermorial Coliseum and Wings Stadium, the faceoff circles are roughly the same distance from the wall. 

If anything wouldn't the teams coming into Fort Wayne have a tougher time because they are skating more than they are accustomed to? Fort Wayne players play 36 games a year there, plus preseason games and practices.

The only ice surface in the league that I know is actually larger is in Alaska. Kalamazoo has been there a couple times, in the preseason a few years ago and in the Kelly Cup finals a couple years ago. This was mentioned in the articles about the games both times they have played up there.

Blake Sebring
Wed, 03/12/2014 - 3:25pm

I personally measured the Memorial Coliseum ice a couple of years ago and it is exactly 200 X 85.

However, there is a quirk to the ice surface.


Wed, 03/12/2014 - 4:43pm

The size of K-wings stadium might be the standard length x width, but to me they have shallow corners and a smaller neutral zone.


Wed, 03/12/2014 - 7:08pm

Been following these comments on ice surface size..but 2 what end have u all come?..is there a point 2 all this???

andy sherman
Wed, 03/12/2014 - 7:49pm

I'm sorry, but the goaltending leaves a lot to be desired on this team.  There is no consistency.  We have a weak goal per game (or two), rebound control is terribile, and a team that struggles to score to boot.  Recipe for disaster. 

Old Quotes
Wed, 03/12/2014 - 9:33pm

SUN, 03/09/2014 - 7:41PM

As a goalie who has played for 40 years, i must come to the defense of our goalies.

Meisner - ranked 9th overall in the league, the highest ranked, non-signed rookie in the ECHL. Goalie of the week last week, runner up for goalie of the month last month and numerous runner-up for goalie of the week. Has a 10-4-2 record with the K's. Has had 3 shut-outs this year - only two goalies in the league are better. What more could you ask for? Anybody can have a weak game and this is only the 3rd time he has let 4 goals in - all the rest where 3 and below (with Fort Wayne).

Makarov - ranked 18th overall in the league. While his stats are not as high as Meisner, he is a very young rookie and was dealing with the team during a very unsettled period. It is also a very big step from the WHL to the ECHL. He is very talented but needs time, and coaching, to achieve his potential. Complaints about his rebound control could be helped immensely by adjusting his hand position and stopping his 'fade in' on shots. Goaltending coaching and practice could fix this problem - criticizing the result with addressing the root cause will not.

This is a great goaltending duo with great potential. Try looking at their body of work rather than looking at a few games.

Old Quotes
Wed, 03/12/2014 - 9:36pm

SUN, 03/09/2014 - 9:43PM

I've watched a lot of things for 24 years - certainly doesn't make me an expert.

As I said before - I've played for 40 years and am still doing so. I have a coaching certificate and coached goalies for 10 years. If you want me, or any goalie to take you seriously, please provide your credentials

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:35pm

I'm confused about the point of posting old quotes...am I missing something?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 2:36pm

About credentials,  my name appears as my user name, Old Quote. What's yours?  I am around Canlan all the time (3 nights a week) and the only guy I see coaching goalies is Boucher and Tommy Shears.  I don't completely disagree with your stats, but, Meisner's stats are terrible at home compared to on the road, and you can't even argue that they don't let in, on average, probably a softie a game.  Makarov, is a good young albeit raw talent who needs specific goalie coaching, I agree.  But absolving him of his terrible rebound control and letting in of soft goals just because he is young is giving him a free pass; which doesn't win games for this team. And there are plenty of young goalies that can control their rebounds just fine.  They need GREAT goaltending like they've gotten on the road for most of the season. Blake, can you comment as to whether theyhave had Nick out to work with them this season?  I remember there being talk of it, and I don't see why they wouldn't take advantage of a guy like him when he is hanging around town?  But that said, good goalies rarely let softies in, and I have seen them all season, as has everyone that goes to games both in FTW and on the road.  Good goals don't break a team's back like soft ones do.  All you have to do is look at the bench's body language after a questionable goal to see the results.  For a team that doesn't score a whole bunch of goals, there just is not any room for bad goals...Beng a goalie is a hard job-no doubt.  But they should be held to the same standard as everyone else on the team, regardless of how old they are, or if they are playing on the road or at home. 

andy sherman
Thu, 03/13/2014 - 2:37pm

Thats should of said my name in the comment above.  No idea why it didn't

Blake Sebring
Thu, 03/13/2014 - 2:39pm

Nick has volunteered to come out but so far has not been asked.  That's a huge failure in this season.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 3:05pm

Add another to a loooong list of blunders this season....

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 3:31pm

Food for thought on our goalie situation:  How many shoot outs have the Komets won this season?  I believe the answer is only one.  That eliminates the excuse of poor defense in front of him, being screened, puck going in off a skate, bad bounce, etc.