Comment to OldGuy45 from yesterday's story....on price increases...really?
If you had purchased early the adult ticket prices increased roughly 3%...if you procrastinated it went up 11.2%from early last year.
If you had purchased early Senior tickets, they increased roughly 2.8%..if you procrastinated it went up 12.8% from early last year.
Personally as a season ticket holder, I do not find the early prices out of line...others are higher but those are based off of early bird prices...I do not have what the regular prices went up to last year...that would make those other figures lower....b..b..b and so on
Best of luck K's with scheduling and offers!
OLDGUY45
Wed, 06/04/2014 - 12:56pm
I did purchase my tickets early but a price increase is unwarranted. I have wathed Komet hockey from day one and this is lousy hockey. I plan on this being my last with these prices and the product of this league. Further more how much of a price increase do you think the averag fan will tollerate.
Blake Sebring
Wed, 06/04/2014 - 1:12pm
Wonder how many people now wish they had stayed in the CHL.
OLDGUY45
Wed, 06/04/2014 - 1:56pm
I for sure wished they had stayed in the CHL.Better product for sure.Don't know how they figure they are the premier AA league.
Alan
Wed, 06/04/2014 - 4:06pm
I would contend that any increase is too much. I've posted on this before and got thoroughly lambasted. If you take the time to research costs for the last three seasons, you will find a remarkable increase.
I will try again to pull out my records and report on it. It may take a couple of days as this will not be a priority of mine. Maybe by the time I get everything together, no one will care.
On a different note, I do have a couple of questions. Has the ECHL reconfigured their division alignments? Has the ECHL made any determination of playoff participants (especially in the west)?
I also enjoyed the play (and the rules) of the CHL. My fear is that geography will kill that league. I just can't see it surviving for long and am wondering the fate of the two (three ?) member teams who want out and are not part of the ownership group.
For once in my lifetime I have little confidence in this new season. Realizing that no one has anyone signed, I fear that the Komets aren't dealing in a position of strength but rather in a strategy dilemma. They don't want to affiliate, or do they? They want to control their own roster, but look how that turned out last year. Gary Graham is a good human being, maybe a great X's and O's coach, but is he the guy that players will respect and be drawn to? I don't think anyone has the answer to that question. I hate it, but I see the Komets stumbling a little in a league where circumstances seem to be as important as hard work and intelligence.
I am going to watch with great interest the fate and future of Jason Dale. For the life of me, I can't understand the hesitation of playing him after the first two Reading games. I spoke with him often and his health was not an issue. He was a good soldier and didn't cause mischief when not dressing. He didn't understand why (and I can't blame him) when he was continually scratched. But that said, I wouldn't blame him if he was also as hestitant not to come back here. So he's going to be my litmus test.
Rizk may be another interesting guy to watch. He may have been over the top a little when demanding more power play time. The fact is that the Komet powerplay was basically absent all year long. So one may ask, how wrong was he?
I think the Komets are in for a crucial year. Attendance fell. People complained all year about the entertainment value. AND the most important thing, the year wasn't much fun at all for the spectators. A dismal home record only made better by an end of year spurt which made the season and the memories bearable to think about.
Blake Sebring
Wed, 06/04/2014 - 4:09pm
Alan, you say the same thing every year at this time. :)
kyle hunt
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 5:52am
Hate development leagues. A lot of guys skating around fast trying not to get hurt. CHL was better Hockey. I like hockey the way I was taught to play, this ain't it.
Who/SuZ
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 7:15am
Dear "fans" - wow...things are just getting started and we have the boo...nay...questionable comments from those we always do....looking forward to a great new season.
P. S. - good for you Oldguy..if you do not like it just get out...that is how you show your dislike...by not giving them your money...and I agree....I will still be there, enjoying good entertainment at a reasonable PRICE
Alan, wow, what a diatribe....not sure how all that we be your bellweather for the coming year but ok.
GO K's
AJ
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 10:22am
I enjoyed more about the Chl but I am hoping the Echl will grow on me more each year. Pros and cons to both...as always though...I'm glad we have pro hockey!
Your comment gave me a little chuckle, and a lot of thought on it.
When a team has to basically rebuild each and every year, I get afraid for the offense. I've seen past recruiting seasons where the decisions made were influenced by the particular weaknesses of the prior season. Nothing wrong with the goal of improving, but not having one area trump another area. ( I would contend that style of recruiting is a viscious cycle, leading to a "revolving door" kind of recruiting year after year). And it has happened, even admitted to.
But saying that, count me "guilty as charged" Blake...and if I'm healthy enough and you allow me to post on the blog next year, I'll probably post something similar. LOL!
Death, taxes, and an Alan rant on offense.
greta12
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 11:55am
Alan, about this:
>>I also enjoyed the play (and the rules) of the CHL. My fear is that geography will kill that league. I just can't see it surviving for long and am wondering the fate of the two (three ?) member teams who want out and are not part of the ownership group.<<
Apparently you're not aware the teams now own the CHL. (Happened last year.) There are no teams not part of the ownership group.
Regarding geography, it's just as likely to kill the ECHL - the western division, anyway. For that matter the eastern division has lost more than a few teams the past few years. You might want to go back and look at its history pre-Komets. Just sayin.
Carry on ...
RonFWA
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 2:51pm
Hey, OLDGUY45. By buying tickets this year, you've stated your acceptance of the price increase. That's how it works, blog complaints notwithstanding. And you are no more owed an explanation for the increase than you are for when the price of bread goes up at Kroger.
OLDGUY45
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 3:49pm
My price went up aroun15 dollars because I bought before the big price increase.Furfthermore I am willing to pay for good entertainig hockey. Not the garbage we have seen the last two years.I have been a Komet fan since I was seven in 1952 and it's a little hard to let go. However the the play remains the booring style of the last two year I will stop going for sure.About the price increase I wounder how many can really aford it.
JR1
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 3:58pm
I will not be renewing my season tickets for this coming season... I do not think management is "in touch" with their fan base any longer and seem unwilling to adapt to a developmental league, therefore I do not think we will see any vast improvement in the near future. Increased pricing (tickets, parking, food), boring style, boring atmosphere, no affiliation have made the decision easy for me and many others...
Another fan said it best at the conclusion of this past season: "I am not renewing my season tickets; but instead, like this Komets team, will only show up for the last few games and the playoffs"....
I enjoy ECHL hockey... I have not enjoyed what we have had to endure here in Fort Wayne these past 2 seasons. I can take losing...I cannot take boring...
I like Alan's posts...he, at least, will think out his contributions and listen with an open mind to differring ideas/opinions.
Alan
Thu, 06/05/2014 - 6:10pm
Greta, go back and check your facts. At least two teams in the CHL are NOT part of the ownership group. Go to the CHL website and read what THEY have to say about their future (particularly the season after next).
I wish the CHL much succcess. Competition makes everyone stronger and keeps everyone on their toes.
If I'm wrong, post the facts to me and I'll be extremely happy to admit any misgivings.
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Comment to OldGuy45 from yesterday's story....on price increases...really?
If you had purchased early the adult ticket prices increased roughly 3%...if you procrastinated it went up 11.2%from early last year.
If you had purchased early Senior tickets, they increased roughly 2.8%..if you procrastinated it went up 12.8% from early last year.
Personally as a season ticket holder, I do not find the early prices out of line...others are higher but those are based off of early bird prices...I do not have what the regular prices went up to last year...that would make those other figures lower....b..b..b and so on
Best of luck K's with scheduling and offers!
I did purchase my tickets early but a price increase is unwarranted. I have wathed Komet hockey from day one and this is lousy hockey. I plan on this being my last with these prices and the product of this league. Further more how much of a price increase do you think the averag fan will tollerate.
Wonder how many people now wish they had stayed in the CHL.
I for sure wished they had stayed in the CHL.Better product for sure.Don't know how they figure they are the premier AA league.
I would contend that any increase is too much. I've posted on this before and got thoroughly lambasted. If you take the time to research costs for the last three seasons, you will find a remarkable increase.
I will try again to pull out my records and report on it. It may take a couple of days as this will not be a priority of mine. Maybe by the time I get everything together, no one will care.
On a different note, I do have a couple of questions. Has the ECHL reconfigured their division alignments? Has the ECHL made any determination of playoff participants (especially in the west)?
I also enjoyed the play (and the rules) of the CHL. My fear is that geography will kill that league. I just can't see it surviving for long and am wondering the fate of the two (three ?) member teams who want out and are not part of the ownership group.
For once in my lifetime I have little confidence in this new season. Realizing that no one has anyone signed, I fear that the Komets aren't dealing in a position of strength but rather in a strategy dilemma. They don't want to affiliate, or do they? They want to control their own roster, but look how that turned out last year. Gary Graham is a good human being, maybe a great X's and O's coach, but is he the guy that players will respect and be drawn to? I don't think anyone has the answer to that question. I hate it, but I see the Komets stumbling a little in a league where circumstances seem to be as important as hard work and intelligence.
I am going to watch with great interest the fate and future of Jason Dale. For the life of me, I can't understand the hesitation of playing him after the first two Reading games. I spoke with him often and his health was not an issue. He was a good soldier and didn't cause mischief when not dressing. He didn't understand why (and I can't blame him) when he was continually scratched. But that said, I wouldn't blame him if he was also as hestitant not to come back here. So he's going to be my litmus test.
Rizk may be another interesting guy to watch. He may have been over the top a little when demanding more power play time. The fact is that the Komet powerplay was basically absent all year long. So one may ask, how wrong was he?
I think the Komets are in for a crucial year. Attendance fell. People complained all year about the entertainment value. AND the most important thing, the year wasn't much fun at all for the spectators. A dismal home record only made better by an end of year spurt which made the season and the memories bearable to think about.
Alan, you say the same thing every year at this time. :)
Hate development leagues. A lot of guys skating around fast trying not to get hurt. CHL was better Hockey. I like hockey the way I was taught to play, this ain't it.
Dear "fans" - wow...things are just getting started and we have the boo...nay...questionable comments from those we always do....looking forward to a great new season.
P. S. - good for you Oldguy..if you do not like it just get out...that is how you show your dislike...by not giving them your money...and I agree....I will still be there, enjoying good entertainment at a reasonable PRICE
Alan, wow, what a diatribe....not sure how all that we be your bellweather for the coming year but ok.
GO K's
I enjoyed more about the Chl but I am hoping the Echl will grow on me more each year. Pros and cons to both...as always though...I'm glad we have pro hockey!
Yeah, looking introspectively you're probably correct, Blake.
Your comment gave me a little chuckle, and a lot of thought on it.
When a team has to basically rebuild each and every year, I get afraid for the offense. I've seen past recruiting seasons where the decisions made were influenced by the particular weaknesses of the prior season. Nothing wrong with the goal of improving, but not having one area trump another area. ( I would contend that style of recruiting is a viscious cycle, leading to a "revolving door" kind of recruiting year after year). And it has happened, even admitted to.
But saying that, count me "guilty as charged" Blake...and if I'm healthy enough and you allow me to post on the blog next year, I'll probably post something similar. LOL!
Death, taxes, and an Alan rant on offense.
Alan, about this:
>>I also enjoyed the play (and the rules) of the CHL. My fear is that geography will kill that league. I just can't see it surviving for long and am wondering the fate of the two (three ?) member teams who want out and are not part of the ownership group.<<
Apparently you're not aware the teams now own the CHL. (Happened last year.) There are no teams not part of the ownership group.
Regarding geography, it's just as likely to kill the ECHL - the western division, anyway. For that matter the eastern division has lost more than a few teams the past few years. You might want to go back and look at its history pre-Komets. Just sayin.
Carry on ...
Hey, OLDGUY45. By buying tickets this year, you've stated your acceptance of the price increase. That's how it works, blog complaints notwithstanding. And you are no more owed an explanation for the increase than you are for when the price of bread goes up at Kroger.
My price went up aroun15 dollars because I bought before the big price increase.Furfthermore I am willing to pay for good entertainig hockey. Not the garbage we have seen the last two years.I have been a Komet fan since I was seven in 1952 and it's a little hard to let go. However the the play remains the booring style of the last two year I will stop going for sure.About the price increase I wounder how many can really aford it.
I will not be renewing my season tickets for this coming season... I do not think management is "in touch" with their fan base any longer and seem unwilling to adapt to a developmental league, therefore I do not think we will see any vast improvement in the near future. Increased pricing (tickets, parking, food), boring style, boring atmosphere, no affiliation have made the decision easy for me and many others...
Another fan said it best at the conclusion of this past season: "I am not renewing my season tickets; but instead, like this Komets team, will only show up for the last few games and the playoffs"....
I enjoy ECHL hockey... I have not enjoyed what we have had to endure here in Fort Wayne these past 2 seasons. I can take losing...I cannot take boring...
I like Alan's posts...he, at least, will think out his contributions and listen with an open mind to differring ideas/opinions.
Greta, go back and check your facts. At least two teams in the CHL are NOT part of the ownership group. Go to the CHL website and read what THEY have to say about their future (particularly the season after next).
I wish the CHL much succcess. Competition makes everyone stronger and keeps everyone on their toes.
If I'm wrong, post the facts to me and I'll be extremely happy to admit any misgivings.