The Journal Gazette does not agree with my opinion that the comonly understood letter grades A, B, C, D and F, having been used for generations to rate school students' performance, would also be a logical way to rate the schools themselves:
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The best thing the gubbermint could ever do in r/e public schools is to get the hell out of them. Abolish the dept of education and disassemble the NEA too.
Neither of those organizations is beneficial to education in any way shape or form.
Agreed, Tim...BTFO!
(and while we're at it, let's reinstitute corporal punishment for the chronically moronic students who are skewing all the stats anyway, hmm?)
Stop with the "feel-good", hand-holding rhetoric, and stop stroking these kids' self-esteem.
All that's done is to raise a generation (or two) of entitlement-driven couch potatoes, financed in full by the taxpayers.
Time for THEM to get responsible for their OWN success...or failure.
Now THAT would be "progressive", as in FORWARD-moving.
;)
Yes! Let's get back to the good ole days of beating children into submission! It worked so well the first time!
What the heck do THEY need self-esteem for? Besides, THEY don't need no edumacashun when THEY are naturally inclined to laziness and stupidity, right Bob?
Gee, Nellie, you SOUND JUST like one of my welfare-laden, lazy-assed, drug-dealing, dropout neighbors...LOL!
Kissin' the kids' BUTTS all these years hasn't worked out well EITHER, has it, dimbulb?
:)
I realize, Mr. Gaul, that your worldview is extremely narrow, paranoid and riddled with violent fantasies, but allowing school employees to hit children for their failings went out of fashion about 35 years ago - about the time the world realized such a practice was barbaric. Permitting adults to hit children only serves to create more adults that hit children - an inexcusable vicious circle.
Heh heh heh...Nellie.
I know when you say "Yes! Let
timothy, what statistics? Please properly cite.
Discipline and corporal punishment are two different things, timothy. My point is that giving license to school employees to physically abuse children is barbaric and counterproductive.
Thank you, Tim...well said.
Nel:
My view is not NEARLY as narrow, paranoid nor as riddled with "violent fantaises" as YOURS apparently is...
And by CORPORAL punishment, that does NOT mean STRIKING a child in a manner meant to inflict real harm to them...in today's PC world, it means anything from taking a child by the arm to even LOOKING at them the "wrong" way...let's be PERFECTLY CLEAR on that.
(but it must be perfectly OK for the STUDENTS to hit a teacher for interrupting a fight , right?)
Too much "gray area" being foisted upon the unwashed masses here.
Used to be a time when if a student acted up in class, some burly GYM teacher grabbed then by the collar, hauled their ass outside the room, put them up against the wall, and read 'em the riot act...seemed to work pretty darn well, too.
THAT was considered CORPORAL punishment.
(study your LATIN root words)
Abuse is HARDLY a term to equate with punishment (ulness you're saidistic at heart and wish to bait commenters)
Betcha good money that IF stricter PUNISHMENT and DISCIPLINE were performed once again in schools, students WOULD tow the mark.
Then again, if the PARENTS knew about DISCIPLINE and CONSEQUENCES and taught them to their kids properly, we wouldn't even be having this debate.
Would we?
Mr. Gaul, I only derive my impressions of your worldview by the opinions you express here and other places on the web.
You can rail against me all you want, but the fact remains that corporal punishment used by school employees is barbaric, counterproductive, and thankfully, in many states and countries around the world, illegal.
Maybe, once in a while, it TAKES a "barbarian"
to DEAL with a "barbarian"...ever think of that?
(didn't think so...liberal mindset syndrome, no doubt)
BTW, glad you know my last name...does me proud.
:)
Never been a teacher have ya Nellie?
Btw, timothy, the proper spelling is "troglodyte."
Mr. Gaul, thank you for proving my earlier statement.
The ONLY things I've proven (along with other people) are your lack of experience in the REAL world, inability to debate in a civil manner , as well as understanding the issues at hand.
But I DO appreciate the kudos, even if you are a victicratic person with nothing better to do than bash others online.
Maybe if Obamacare kicks in, you'll get the meds you need...for FREE.
Do have a wonderful day.
:)
Bobby, if Nellie gets her meds under Obamacare, they'll be free to her cuz you and I will have to pay for them. Give yourself an "attaboy".
Oh for Nellie's sake...
You're a woman. Girls when I was going to school in the 60's were never given the paddle, boys were. In my grade school girls were sent to the kitchen in the cafeteria to perform "womanly" duties, i.e., doing the dishes, mopping the floor, cleaning, etc. It taught them well, and prepared them to be the future stay-at-home Moms that were all so common place back then. It also taught them to respect authority.
Boys on the other hand met the "board of education," as many times as it took. For me, if was three times. It served me well, and I'm a better person for it.
They didn't beat the living $hit out of me, they simply paddled my @$$, and hell yes, it hurt. Enough that I finally straightened up and gained some respect for authority.
My father also paddled my four brothers and I. We're better men for it. My mother tried, God love her. All 5'1" and 98 pounds of her. She would take the pine slats out of the window blinds and swat our asses. We would yelp and run off crying pretending to be in pain. We weren't, but we loved our Mother and didn't want to disappoint her. She was left there holding a broken slat, feeling a sense of accomplishment.
You can go back to the kitchen now.
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AWB..funny how those memories stick! I remember receiving the "board of education" as well. Vividly. Mr. Grantham, 7th grade science class, Jefferson Junior High circa 1971.
I never held it against him, he was a great guy, a good teacher. I had it coming and I knew it and thus I learned from it. (didn't mouth off in HIS class anymore! ha!)
Oh and Nellie, about stats...(not that anybody would actually need to refer to them unless they lived in a bubble)
Since 1960 the juvenile court caseload increased over 400 percent, from 1,100 delinquency cases on a given day in 1960 to 4,500 in 2000. (See Figure 5.20.)
Read more: Juvenile Crime - The Crimes