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This is certainly a welcome switch:

The White House announced Friday that it is shelving a major planned Environmental Protection Agency regulation that would have tightened smog standards, dealing a huge blow to environmentalists that had pushed the Obama administration to resist industry pressure to abandon the regulation.

In a statement, President Obama said that the rule is being shelved because he is wary of imposing regulatory burdens during the economic recovery.

Wow. Easing regulatory burdens to encourage economic recovery. What a concept! And it ticks off the environmentalsts. Win-win. One job-destroying regulation down, nine to go.

Comments

littlejohn
Sat, 09/03/2011 - 4:45pm

And only a couple thousand more premature lung cancers! What a success!
Before Tim starts shoveling his usual on me, I should point out that I can't run more than about 20 yards without collapsing. My only sibling, my sister, has had half a lung removed. We must have been heavy smokers, right?
Nope. Neither of us ever smoked. But our parents were chain-smokers who didn't like to open the windows lest the precious nicotine escape.
It must be odd to live in a world of black and white, with never a shade of gray.

Tim Zank
Sun, 09/04/2011 - 4:30pm

Heh heh heh, I just can't resist. You are a hoot Littlejohn!

So let me get this straight, your parents (who were presumeably adults while raising you and your sister) were cigarette smokers, and evidently locked you both in small confined spaces for extended periods of time, smoking pack after pack 24-7, which resulted in you both experiencing health problems.

Sorry about your luck, but what does that have to do with the EPA killing businesses with ridiculous regulations that won't improve anyone's health one iota, but will most assuredly kill all their economic hopes and dreams?

Why are you people so intent on destroying our way of life in this country? Is it a control issue with you or are you all just really that stupid?

Harl Delos
Sun, 09/04/2011 - 10:37pm

Tim, there are about 15 days a year in which the television warns me not to venture outdoors because the ozone level is too high - and invariably, they arrive in the middle of tourist season.

What do you think that does to the tourism industry? Do you really imagine that people come to Lancaster County, PA to peer out the windows of their motel room, watching horses cough?

And what do you think it does to the economy of Allen County to have corn, soybeans, and wheat bathed in ozone, weakening and killing the plants? Ozone is seasonal, and it peaks when plants are growing their fastest.

What is this "way of life", Tim, that clean air is destroying it?

I kinda figure that pollution is private property. If you figure that one is allowed to do anything he damned well wants to do with it, would that include neighbors allowing their dogs to take their dumps on your front lawn?

littlejohn
Mon, 09/05/2011 - 8:49pm

Tim, if the EPA does not help anyone's health (a statement I'm sure you believe, but am equally sure you cannot support), then you believe the EPA was created for the sole purpose of destroying jobs.
Wow. I knew Richard Nixon was a weasel, but I didn't realize you agreed with me.
And yes, my chain-smoking parents did lock my sister and me in a tiny compartment. It was called a car. My sister is now undergoing treatment for cancer. Perhaps you'd like to discuss this with her.

Tim Zank
Tue, 09/06/2011 - 8:10am

Littlejohn, What perplexes us conservatives is, the way you progressives so staunchly believe that simply because a person or an agency once accomplished something very helpful (EPA for example has done some very good things) that all of it's decisions thereafter must never be challenged. Mussolini got the trains to run on time too, but made some bad decisions after that, ya know?

You (and your brethren) have this really wierd blind loyalty to government agencies that is disturbing. No matter what the agency wants to do, as long as they tell you it's good for you, the children, the planet, etc you simply fall in line.

As for your sister, I appreciate the invitation but I don't think she needs a discussion with me, but rather one with your parents. Is it your contention that her health problems can somehow be ascribed to government inaction? Should the EPA (or a similar agency) have stepped in and removed you both from your parents home?

Tim Zank
Tue, 09/06/2011 - 7:26pm

Harl posits "What is this

Harl Delos
Wed, 09/07/2011 - 1:48am

Tim, the bulk of the ground-level ozone does NOT come from power plants but from vehicles.

You'll have to pay to get your car tuned up, but if you don't, not only will health care costs go up, but so will food costs as the ozone harms growing plants as well as livestock in feedlots.

There are ways we could clean up the air, things that actually would improve productivity, and we need to press state legislators to adopt them.

For instance, we could decide that green lights give you the right of way, but red lights should be treated the same as stop signs. There's little to be gained from cars and trucks sitting at intersections, idling, when the vehicle could proceed safely.

littlejohn
Wed, 09/07/2011 - 10:18am

Don't worry Tim, I'm not intent on protecting everyone from everything. For example, if I ever see a truck barrelling toward you, I won't bother you by shoving you to safety. It would be rude.

Tim Zank
Wed, 09/07/2011 - 10:36am

But what if I was walking to the school with a wheelbarrow full of money to give to your wife as a raise so the test scores would magically go up? Would ya save me then? Would ya do it for the kids?

Andrew J.
Wed, 09/07/2011 - 1:51pm

I would save you, Tim, for the same reason that applies to a lot of the arguments we have here: it's the right thing to do.
AJ

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