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Opening Arguments

Let Mikey try it

Mike Pence seems to be creating a bit of a buzz these days:

In the unofficial race for president, just one Republican has been to both Iowa and South Carolina.

It's not former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty or former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

It's Indiana Rep. Mike Pence, whose travel schedule is raising eyebrows.

[. . .]

But the legions of failed presidential candidates includes House members who influenced the debate, like the late Reps. Mo Udall (D-Ariz.) and Jack Kemp (R-N.Y.), as well as less-well-known candidates like former Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio).

But it's not impossible, according to independent political analyst Rhodes Cook.

“I don't think a House pedigree would be a significant disadvantage in 2012, given the wide-open nature of the current GOP presidential race and the absence of a clear heir apparent,” Cook said. “That should particularly be the case for a candidate like Pence, who could appeal to a large constituency within the party on the basis of the work he has already done.

“Pence is no little-known back-bencher,” Cook added.

Go, Mike, go. Having a pseudo-conservative in the White House and another one on the campaign trail didn't exactly work for the Republican Party. Maybe it's time to try a real cons


Fri, 10/16/2009 - 11:51am

Having a pseudo-conservative in the White House and another one on the campaign trail didn

lewis allen
Sat, 10/17/2009 - 9:54am

I don't agree with his politics, but I think Mike Pence would be one of the more formidable opponents out there. He seems to be one of a few to make a coherent case for conservatism, and he does so without seeming smug and mean-spirited the way that some other conservatives do, such as John Boehner or Michele Bachmann.

Still, he'd have a better chance with a term as governor or Senator under his belt.

Sun, 10/18/2009 - 2:23pm

If the Anointed One can be elected on his life experiences as an ACORN mouthpiece, his scant political background without accomplishments, his suspect and less-than-honest Chicago friends, his lack of grasp of the concept of American Exceptionalism, and yes, his Malignant Narcissism ... then Mike Pence is a shoo-in.

The campaign slogan is simple: "How is Obama Hope and Change working out for you?"

Mon, 10/19/2009 - 5:56am

tim zank
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 8:20am

In r/e "Hope-N-Change"

Whether you are a liberal, a conservative or an independent, for the life of me, I can't figure out how any of you can accept Obama math. 2+2= 1 just doesn't work.

Take all the hope and change rhetoric out of the equation and explain to me how this country will ever pay for what is being proposed. This isn't "defecit spending" anymore, it's actually committing 2 or 3 generations of income to just barely make ends meet.

I understand passions run high on both sides, but can anyone explain to me where the $$$$ is going to come from for all this? I don't want to hear what GWB did, or anybody else, I want to hear how we're going to spend our way out of fiscal irresponsibility.

Mark Henry
Mon, 10/19/2009 - 2:37pm

Tim, or..

You're money + his money + her money = their money. We all know who "they" are.

Prepare for 70% of your earnings going to the feds.

tim zank
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 7:26am

Alex, How's that transparency thing working out for ya? You know, the campaign promise on film, currently all over the news where Barry said all bills will be debated on c-span? (instead of under Harry Reids desk) and how sunlight is the best antiseptic???? How about that campaign promise to post all major legislation on the internet for a minimum 72 hours so the public could see what's being debated?

Seems hope-n-change meant "I'll tell you what you need to know, when you need to know it". Square that circle with the faithfull.

Kevin Knuth
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 7:50am

Tim, apparently you do not understand our form of government- Obama does NOT control Congress. He has asked them to post legislation in advance of votes- he cannot control what they do.

See, in this country we have a thing called "seperation of powers"- you should read the constitution sometime, you may find it interesting.

tim zank
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 8:06am

If it's not possible for Obama to follow through on what he promised, then why did he promise it? Was he lying then or just woefully incompetent on constitutional matters? Hmmmm...I thought his background included teaching constitional law? He is a lawyer right?

Kevin Knuth
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 8:26am


The President promised "sunlight before signing"- something he can control- and he is making progress on it:http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/

he cannot control Congress- and if you thought he could, you should not have voted...at all!

tim zank
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 8:30am

You can't spin this one this time....He's on film promising open door negotiations with all sides....they are instead under Harry Reids desk...spin it any way ya want....He either lied or he's incompetent, which one ya like? Take your pick, there is no door # 3 on this one.

Don't ya just hate it when that happens?

tim zank
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 8:33am

As an added bonus, how about answering my question above about who is gonna pay for all of the pending entitlements? Will it be the half of the voting public that works, or the other half that doesn't? Oh wait, the latter of that group is the recipient of those entitlements.. oops looks like the rest of us pay....

Kevin Knuth
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 10:43am

Tim, explain to me how a insurance program where you HAVE TO PAY PREMIUMS is an entitlement?

Obama promised to have more sunshine on the process- but other folks involved are not interested in that. What is better- NO PROGRESS or negotiate?

Already we see a difference in what negotiation can do- look at Afghanistan (now willing to have a run-off election) and Iran (70+% of Americans want one on one negotiations over nuclear issues).

I think you need to see that your way does not work AND was soundly defeated in the last election.

Get over it!

tim zank
Tue, 10/20/2009 - 12:35pm

Kevin...So your answer is that he is simply incompetent in matters of constitutional law, or else he would have never promised what he couldn't legally do cuz he just didn't know. Got it. Thanks.

tim zank
Wed, 10/21/2009 - 8:59am

That's what I thought.

Kevin Knuth
Wed, 10/21/2009 - 9:20am

Nope Tim, nice try. He has a law degree and TAUGHT constitutional law...but I am sure a realtor has a better grasp of it!

tim zank
Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:36am

It's pretty obvious he doesn't have a grasp on it isn't it? I wonder if he has given speeches on it in all 57 states?