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Tailing the Komets

Strange night so far

Komets lead 2-1 after the first period, and this is one of those games that just has a strange feel to it. Very physical and the ref has missed some calls so players are starting to take some liberties. Get the feeling one more hit on a goaltender from

Posted in: Komets


Sun, 01/17/2010 - 11:01pm

a thought to ponder--maybe all the negativeness towards some fans turn people away from hockey a little, the komets a little more, and the blog site the most. i know that if i didn't know much about hockey but LOVED the komets, i would never post here because you guys tear people up :( kinda sad. maybe laugh a little then explain why they are not correct would be a better method. ???

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 6:22am

i think people only get ripped when they say things that are completely not based on any fact. rest is open for discussion. if people on here really knew hockey then they would see that bertram is probably the most steady d man we have right now. sure, he doesnt hit or fight like he used to but i bet there is a reason physically for that, and its not being made public. the team is taking off and once again if you compare it to our teams history you will again see that we start slow and then around christmas we catch fire and we see the real team. it happens every year but every year people get excited and start tearing players apart and calling for overhalls and ect but it always works its wayout. thats why we have the best gm and coach in the league. they do know how to put a team together. arguments??

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 7:44am

No argument. Very good points Chuck. I too am tired of fans who think we should make whole sale changes when the whole reason we are successful is because of those vets. Funny story...I was at a youth hockey game and one of Guy Trottier's sons was coaching. I talked to him after the game and he said the biggest strength of the Komets are the vets and how they are able to handle and keep the puck. Hope the nellies put it rest.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 9:11am

Blake--The referee had no idea what he was calling either. On the first goal he ask us if we knew who scored it, "He didn't have a clue." his words not mine. When he called the double minor he came over and said we should be skating 5 on 5. They do that in college.This guy and Suhy do not belong at this level. You know I don't say to much about referee's. The Flint/Bloomington game was refereed by Bret Kowslowski. He is one of the more senior guys. He generally keeps a game under control. I would amagine he was really upset. This will make for lots of work for Brad Jones. I might enjoy not looking at Komet highlights. The attendance in Flint was fairly large for them, over 2,000 announced.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 9:13am

Sorry I, I meant He (Brad Jones) might enjoy not looking at Komet highlights.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 9:27am

I looked up the definition of "negative nellie".....A fan who does not bow down to the stupendous knowledge of the know it all fan. One who does not lace up thier shoes with orange shoe strings. One who does not enjoy waiting 2 1/2 months for the players to get into game shape. One who doesnt give passes to players who have been here forever no matter how bad they are playing. One who expects his team to play with heart. And one who has the gall to express thier opinions on this blog that is contrary to those of the orange tinted glasses wearing, Komet Kool-aid drinking crowd......

Frozen Water
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 9:42am

Lol, but WHO'S "NELLIE"?????

I agree, it'll be interesting seeing what comes out of the brawl. I'm still wondering, does ANYONE know what the call was at about 11:45 in the 3rd when the Komets were on the powerplay in QC's zone and the ref just stopped play, pointed at O'Connor, then had a faceoff outside of QC's zone? I don't even see it in the box score. Dschebig, do you know? Thanks in advance to anyone who knows the answer to this.

Blake Sebring
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 10:15am

Chuckitt is exactly correct.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 10:43am

So Mrs.Crouss, when they yell "Too many men!" do you get up and use that as a teaching point? And thanks for letting us know how think the rule book is, I have never seen one let alone read on from cover-to-cover, but yet I still didn't shout out "HAND PASS!!!"

Anyways, we all know that Blake and the other guy pay the Komets to start out slow so they can have blogs full of us fans yelling about what's wrong with the team and how to fix it. Then comes late Dec/Jan and they turn it on and charge into the playoffs. Right Blake????

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 11:02am

Frozen Water--I was advised that the Komets had a player in the goalies crease on a powerplay. That calls for stopage and the face-off outside the zone. I can't find that rule in the IHL rule book. It maybe he was still working a college game. That was what he worked on Saturday. He tried to call that stuff most of Sunday's game. He maybe be great for a college game. The IHL is just a tad bit faster and I think better. His qualification for the IHL could use some help.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 11:08am

I agree with chuckitt that we have a hell of a coach and gm; but do not agree that all of those that are considered "negative" comment without thought or without basing thier opinions on fact... If you say that it is fact that the K's are notoriously slow starters I will say that it is fact that most K's fans give thier players too many excuses for the way they are playing or its fact that most K's fans will dismiss something a K does on the ice then villify the opposition player who does the same thing the next game. There are all kinds of facts that we can throw around; but the difference is that when certain facts are pointed out that fan will be painted as negative...

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 11:09am

I think that the Bloomington-Flint brawl can partly be explained as two teams who are very frustrated by the way their last two weeks have gone. Bloomington ( not many wins ), Flint ( four shutouts in a row ), and emotions are high.... I agree, wholeheartedly, that this ref was real unsure of himself. He just about lost total control of the game in the first period and then, it seemed, that things kind of settled down. However, things started to get crazy again in the third period. I have no idea why there was a stoppage of play play at 11:45. It didn't make any sense to me and there was no announcement to explain....as far as the "hand pass" rule, we had some people in our section who screamed and hollered about the hand pass by Quad City in their defensive zone. Obviously they didn't know the rule. You all should have heard them when play was stopped for the Komets hand pass in the K's offensive zone. They were totally confused, and of course, blamed the officials. Sometimes it is easy to understand the confusion though. Maybe they don't attend many games. In the past it was illegal for a hand pass anywhere on the ice......I am pulling real hard for Chewy and O'Conner to break out of their goal scoring drought. I think if they can put a few in they will catch fire and then all three lines will be going strong.....lastly, I wanted to comment on all this "negatve nellie" stuff. Look, I'm not going to defend someone who posts something real negative about an individual player. However, I do believe that this blog is for opinions, chatter, and information. For instance, I am guilty of posting comments about the makeup of the team. I had said all along, from the start of the season, on how I didn't understand the Stayzer signing. He was a veteran and I would covet my veteran signings. It was never a "personal" attack on Blair Stayzer, just an opinion on how I would use my limited number of vet spots. I wish him nothing but good luck and know he is a great guy. That has nothing to do with it. Do what you have to do to make the team better. I truly believe that people should be able to post their opinions (and it would help if they could logically back up their reasoning) without being "intimidated" by the fact that they may be branded a "negative Nellie." Last thing, Kevin Bertram has become a force on the K's defense. ( I'm not sure I would have said that early in the season). He is blocking shots, clearing rebounds, playing a smart defensive game for his goaltenders, and has stood up for his teammates (especially in the last two games). Let's give him a break, OK?....OK, I'm ready for the arguments to come my way. I won't take anything that anyone says in a negative manner. If I'm wrong, tell me why and I will consider it and maybe learn from it......hey runningKomet, how's that for a "book."

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 11:28am

And JR the Komets management have listened to you about every move they've made this year correct? My point is to let the management do their job. Complaining about a player when you have no idea what's going on with that player makes no sense. BTW, Guy played a great game and so did Bert.

Blake Sebring
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 11:44am

Yeah... right, Hoss, because it's so much fun to read the same things year after year after year. LOL.

Frozen Water
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 11:58am

Thanks, Dschebig. I figured you'd be one who'd know the answer. I don't feel so dumb for not knowing now.

OK, I will feel dumb for not knowing this, but I saw Tarantino on the other post and was wondering what his status is?

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 12:49pm

vince i think is out on workmans comp. when and if he is healthy then the ks can sign him and if they still have his rights they could release him.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 1:05pm

Right on Chuckitt-You know it perfectly. I sure hope I am not a "Willie Nillie" or whatever that is. I know chuckitt isn't.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 1:42pm

G-hockey, when did I ever say that the K's management needed to listen to me and make moves based on my opinion??? Whether you like it or not I have an opinion and no hockey know it all like yourself is going to change my opinions... Also whether you like it or not I have the freedom to speak my mind as long as it is in good taste. BTW, you have no idea how much I do or dont know about this team, in fact I have had beers with several of these players over the years and have kept all of those conversations to myself as you would be suprised what gets said...

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 1:56pm

JR--Blog foul 1 minute in the box with one redhead. He didn't say you said that. He was asking a question if they had made all the changes you suggested. Which you didn't answer and rightly so. I think I got it. But than I am a old man and get confused quickly. Let's cut G_Hockey a little slack. You are both good bloggers need I say more?

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 2:54pm

Seems to me from standing on the sidelines and reading these forums a bunch, that you better see things a certain way. If you happen to see the game differently than the "loudest" bloggers then you are in for it. Forever labeled a negative nellie!

Chuckit says ""if people on here really knew hockey then they would see that bertram is probably the most steady d man we have right now. ""

Now i happen to agree Bertram is one of our best at the moment.. however, if i didn't i would be forever labeled as an uninformed, uneducated, negative nellie! truly pathetic.

people need to study up on fact vs opinion.. many seem to think if they believe something very strongly it makes it fact.. well no.. it doesn't... most everything stated on a blog is opinion. everyone has one.. fact is, this is 1 place to voice those.

Before you start grouping someone in the negative nellie pile, maybe you could try to realize their philosophy towards sports, hockey, and the Komets is seen through a different looking glass than the one you are using. they may be a bit pessimistic at heart.. Many people are.. cut em some slack and perhaps stop stamping a label on them.

Frozen Water
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 3:03pm

JR: Without saying any of the stories or why, who was the most fun to sit down and just shoot the breeze with over a beer? I wonder what a lot of these guys are like off the ice. I've spoken with a few here and there, but you still wonder sometimes.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 4:47pm

Anonymous poster alert......Anonymous poster alert......Anonymous poster alert......Anonymous poster alert......

Blake Sebring
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 5:16pm

It kills me how we're all so dang touchy on here, myself included sometimes. Maybe it's because we all feel so passionately about hockey and trust we know the exact right answers. WELL, YOU'RE ALL DEAD WRONG! LOL.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 5:28pm

All I want is $1.00 BEER NIGHT + a ROUGH,TOUGH,WINNING hockey team + Colts SUPER BOWL=mightbite happy.

Frozen Water
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 7:03pm

I can't believe you said that about us, Blake!! I know EVERYTHING about hockey! I think you do not know the first thing about fans who blog or else you'd know that we DO know everything! What are we, casual bloggers?? My +/- is +24.5 when I get my ice cream during the 1st intermission as opposed to getting popcorn during the 2nd. Sure, I had some down time when I slumped all the way to -3.141592653589793238462643383279 before New Years as I tried a new method of getting a cheese pretzel during the 2nd intermission instead. Imagine my surprise when I figured out the REAL problem was that I was just sad because the Broaster Boys never threw me any chickens! Emotion is everything in this business. You think you know blogging... You don't know anything that is going on in our lives outside of the stands and why we don't always perform well night-in and night-out! We aren't machines, Blake, we're people, with real feelings, and you just hurt them... Prepare for a slump, I just cannot be a fan with this type of emotional downturn in my life right now :(

For those playing at home, the above is an example of S-A-R-C-A-S-M! Kudos, Blake. Hilarious post.

Mon, 01/18/2010 - 7:10pm

It's the mask, Blake. It turns ordinary humans in SUPER BLOGGERS! LOL.

Hit Somebody!!!
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 7:39pm

I too, am blogging with an undisclosed injury, but I am still blogging.....Chuckitt hit it on the head. Great job Chuckitt. Just like Frozen Water, I have lots of stress and I still effort everyday with great blogging. And I come on here and have Proffessor G giving hockey lectures about not knowing enough about what is going on in the personal lives of "a said" Komet Player or 2. They don't know what is going on here, for Pete's sake. I see a large ICY on the wall looking at me...telling me to be a better blogger, I hear voices. I have bobble heads on the mantel shaking their heads at me, A Man behind the Mic, A Fireman, An oldman holding a broken cup, A scary man with a stick and a mask....they all keep looking at me shaking their dang heads......I can't take it anymore!!!!!!!! Stop looking at me Huge Giant Icy on the Wall....Go away!!!!!!!!!!!

I will still give 100%....My name is Hit......not Nellie!!!

Blueline Baby
Tue, 01/19/2010 - 9:18pm

Hit, did you GET Hit in the head? Poor thing....you sit down with a foo-foo drink and a redhead and things will be better. :)