``I think any time you get a match penalty for swinging your stick, it's going to be severe. Obviously it was more than Mac's last year and Labenski's this year but I think stick swinging, they take it more severely than an elbow or a knee-to-knee hit or anything like that. Stick swinging is something they don't want in the game so I wasn't surprised by the length.''
David Franke: ``It was definitely a strong intent to in
