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Born in the USA

Bye, bye, birthers; don't let the door hit you on the way out. President Obama finally releases his "long form" birth certificate, and:

The new document doesn't seem to reveal anything to contradict Obama's claims, but the very fact that the president will have to answer Trump must be very galling. Remember, the longtime argument offered by the administration against releasing the document was that it would still not satisfy conspiracy theorists and doing so would only encourage them to make further demands.

Galling? Maybe. But I'm cynical enough to think the White House stalled on this so long because the whole birther thing helped the administration politically by dividing Republicans and turning off independents. And it was released now because Trumpt's ravings were starting to get enough traction that there was a political advantage in putting the document out there.

Can we now please get back to arguing why Obama is unfit for the office because of the terrible decisions he's made?

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Comments

littlejohn
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 10:44am

C'mon, you're as big a cynic as I am. How long before Trump or that Russian "dentist" or whoever starts calling the long form a CIA fake?
That's why it took so long, you see.

Tim Zank
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 11:57am

There are some that won't let it go, but Trump will. His news conference this morning (10 minutes ahead of Obama's) was classic Trump. He took credit for "doing what nobody else has been able to do" i.e. making the President produce the proof.
He won't up running but he's doing a wonderful job of sticking a thumb in the eye of Obama and the press. It's hilarious.

Doug
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 11:59am

Before we get to discuss Obama's policy decisions, presumably we'll have to hear more about how he's an islamofascist communist. Also, too, death panels.

William Larsen
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 1:33pm

I have seen the reported birth certificate once on line and it could have been doctored, it looked like any of those issued by states after 1980. The problem we have here is there is no way to prove one way or the other.

In all states, all that is necessary to claim US birth is to report to the state a live birth. The baby's birth need not be in a hospital and many are not. In this case, the report may and normally is done days if not a week or more later. If it happens in a hospital, there is more documentation.

My and my wife's Birth certificates are different from our childrens' in that they are original with actual signatures on them. Our childrens' are like a title for a car and if you get a replacement one, it looks like a title, far different from my original.

Trump should drop it, there is no way to prove he is anymore a US citizen then Obama is.

littlejohn
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:08pm

Trump has dropped the birther thing, but he's moved on to even greater idiocy.
He's now claiming (based on things he's "heard") that Obama was a lousy student and couldn't have gotten into Harvard without, one assumes, affirmative action.
First, Obama long ago conceded he may have benefited from affirmative action, but he has no way of knowing.
Furthermore, it is a matter of record that he graduated Magna Cum Laude and was named editor of the Harvard Law Review. They don't just give those things out.
It would be interesting to compare Mr. Obama's and Mr. Trump's SAT scores. I'm willing to bet on Obama. Any takers?

Tim Zank
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:17am

Littlejohn points out "They don

Harl Delos
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 9:49am

Trump may be a ego driven blowhard but he

gadfly
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:59pm

The latest COLB is a fake according to those who have examined the many layers, albeit "alterations," as exposed by Adobe Illustrator when the PDF file is downloaded from whitehouse.org.

Americans are obviously stupid people to be manipulated by those in power.

Harl Delos
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 11:48am

1.) That's a privately-owned domain that used to belong to the people who made White House Sauce. You want to go to whitehouse.gov

2.) If you scan an image, convert it to PDF, optimize the PDF, and open it up in illustrator, you find layers similar to those seen in the birth certificate PDF. Try it yourself.

Americans aren't stupid people, they're vulnerable. If they would only line their hats with tinfoil, it'd block the radiation, and they wouldn't be so easily manipulated.

littlejohn
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:22pm

Tim, Magna Cum Laude is based entirely on the student's grade point average. Editorship of the Harvard Law Review goes to the best law student. These things aren't popularity contests and affirmative action doesn't enter into it.
Disagree with Obama all you like, but a high school grad questioning the intelligence of a man who graduated with honors from Harvard Law School is pathetic. He's got an easy 50 IQ points on you.

gadfly
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:40pm

Harl:

I knew it was ".gov"-- just got my fingers mixed up. I don't have Illustrator, nor do I understand, with the limitations of my accountant's mind, why PDF images from a single document would have to be in multiple layers. Perhaps you can explain the PDF image technology to us. If I put a single printed piece of paper in a copy machine, I get a single image copy back, so why can't PDF do that?

I do thank you for explaining why Obama won the election -- no tinfoil.

Michaelk42
Sat, 04/30/2011 - 9:31pm

@gadfly

HAHAHA oh yeah, you're going to have to talk to Adobe about that. Good luck.

But seriously, a copy machine doesn't embed entire typefaces in the document, store image separations or a number of other things. It's not even close to a comparison.

Tim Zank
Sun, 05/01/2011 - 5:00pm

Littlejohn sez: "Magna Cum Laude is based entirely on the student

Harl Delos
Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:31am

[i]I don

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