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U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is currently blocking implementation of voter ID laws in South Carolina and Texas, claiming such measures are “unnecessary,” discriminatory and would make it harder for minorities to vote.

But if you’re planning to visit Holder’s office in Washington, D.C., you better bring a photo ID. The Department of Justice has two armed guards stationed outside its headquarters to check IDs of anyone who wants to enter — employees and visitors.

Holder’s politically motivated crusade against voter ID laws has the support of liberal advocacy organizations ranging from the Center for American Progress and Media Matters to the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and the Advancement Project.

Each of these organizations has criticized photo identification for voting, yet they require it to enter their Washington, D.C., offices as well. There’s even a sign in the building of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law: “ALL VISITORS MUST SHOW ID.”

So, basically, they're discriminating against minorities, the poor and the elderly, right? Dirty 1 percent bums.


Tim Zank
Fri, 04/06/2012 - 8:38am

Can you imagine how serious historians will look back at this clown and just shake their heads in disbelief?  (Assuming of course the Republic even survives)



Christopher Swing
Sat, 04/07/2012 - 3:00pm

Security Theater at government buildings discriminates against almost everyone, except for the LEO minions. Usually.

But really, when is someone going to do something about these thousands of instances of voter fraud that exist only in the minds of people like Tim Zank?

Tim Zank
Sat, 04/07/2012 - 6:50pm


"But really, when is someone going to do something about these thousands of instances of voter fraud that exist only in the minds of people like Tim Zank?"


We'll never know how many thousands of cases of voter fraud there are or aren't in the states these laws are currently being implemented unless every voter is treated fairly and identified as a valid voter through the use of a verifiable photo I.D. now will we?  

Why would any group of patriotic Americans not want identities proven? The only (and I mean only) logical reason is obvious, that group wants people to cast ballots when they are not legally allowed too. Liberals know it, conservatives know it, moderates know it, hell everybody knows it. 

You guys would actually have more credibility if you just fessed up to the roughly 80% of the voting population that support voter I.D. and simply admit you just want to cheat.  It's not like they don't know it already anyway.

Christopher Swing
Sat, 04/07/2012 - 7:15pm

LOL, you just seriously came out with the "Nothing to Hide, Nothing to Fear" argument, didn't you? Did you realize you were doing that Zank?

But not only will we never know about the thousands of cases of voter fraud if we don't enact voter ID laws to prevent the thousands of cases of voter fraud we have no evidence of occuring... Oh, sorry, can't do much with something that circular. XD


Not only will we not know about the thousands of cases of HUMAN voter fraud, but how else will be know about the cases of reptoids-posing-as-humans voting fraud that we have just about as much evidence of?

We have no evidence that there is actually a problem so we better fix it, even if it causes other problems!

Tim Zank
Sat, 04/07/2012 - 9:22pm

Man, what is it with you people and this irrational fear of others actually knowing your identity? Are you ALL criminals or something? It's like you're afraid of getting caught doing something illegal. Heh...hilarious....

Tim Zank
Sat, 04/07/2012 - 9:29pm

Could any of you progressives please explain to us hoosier hicks why voter participation has actually increased here in Indiana since we passed voter id in 2005? nd why it's up 6% in Georgia as well? Seems as though it doesn't suppress anybody except the illegals now does it?

Harl Delos
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 1:32am

I'm not sure where you are getting your figures, Tim. Allen County had higher turnout in 2006 than in 2010.

Tim Zank
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 7:27am




and numerous other studies accessible on Teh Google...

Not ONE disenfranchised voter since 2005.......

Again common sense dictates the only reason to hide your identity at the voting booth would be for nefarious reasons. 

Sun, 04/08/2012 - 11:21am

Tim, failure to possess a driver's license is evidence of not owning a car. It is not evidence of "hiding your identity." And it certainly isn't evidence of voter fraud. And since most people who don't own cars vote for Democrats, it is in the interest of Republicans to disenfranchise them.

One can then predict that those people calling for stricter voter ID laws will be Republicans.

Guess what? They all are.

By the way, how do we know you aren't counterfeiting currency unless you let us install video monitors throughout your home? What are you hiding, Tim?

Christopher Swing
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 11:54am

Wait, where's your evidence that "illegals" were voting, Zank?

(Or is that your code-word for reptoids?)

Tim Zank
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 4:14pm

Littlejohn, it's your contention that po' folks can't vote cuz they gots no I.D.? 

1st. The state issued I.D. card is absolutely free if you can't afford it.

2nd. Poor folks on government assistance already have I.D. , they had to provide it to to get SNAP or welfare bennies.

3rd. Working "poor" have I.D.'s also or they wouldn't be able to cash their paychecks. (You know ANY establishment that will cash a check without photo I.D.? or a fingerprint?)

4. over 75% of people (not dems or repubs voters but just citizens ) asked support voter I.D.

Do this experiment yourself, walk around the mall or a sidewalk and ask people this question verbatim: "Do you think you should have a photo I.D. to vote in the upcoming election?" 

I guarantee you 90% will say "Of course"...Hell I'll bet ya 90% of normal democrats think it makes perfect sense. Next time you are sitting in a bar ask the guy next to you, (again verbatim) I dare ya. He'll laugh at you. Only ONE reason not to verify and that is to CHEAT.

Lastly for Swing, are we to assume that just because you are naive enough to think that no one commits voter fraud we should all be as trusting and naive as you? We know you are not that naive, you guys just want a way to cheat. Not exactly rocket science. 

If labor unions require a photo I.D. to vote in their elections, then why not local, state, and federal elections as well????

Christopher Swing
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 10:00pm

But Zank, just because people are naive enough to think that reptoids from the hollow earth aren't voting in place of people doesn't mean it's not happening!

And I'm sure you'll come up with the evidence for that, too. Assuming your tinfoil hat holds.

Harl Delos
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:50am

Tim, it was courteous of you to cite another page that referenced a study by a Truman School professor (except that Truman School has no prof by that name, and the link doesn't work.)

However, that page compared 2002 with 2006. There was no senate race in 2002, but there was in 2006.  How surprisiong that people don't bother going to the polls when there is nothing to vote on.

You also asserts "common sense dictates the only reason to hide your identity at the voting booth would be for nefarious reasons" but the law doesn't require state issued ID, which the Amish can use for every other purpose.  Instead, the law requires the Amish cast a provisional ballot, and then show up at the board of elections to file a form within a few days, with the county board of elections located inconveniently in a location very hostile to horse-bound traffic.  And this claptrap need not be done once but after every election, year after year.

How many people from Leo would vote if they had to make a second trip to fill out a form in person on Pontiac street without driving their car or being driven by a friend?

Maybe we ought to institute another security measure and do a body cavity search on every voter, just in case they are terrorists trying to sneak in a pair ot nail clippers or other dangerous weapon,  I'm sure you'll dismiss this risk, but statistics show that Al Queda is at least equally likely to blow up polling places as the Amish are to steal an election.