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Opening Arguments

Boil, baby, boil

Not exactly an uplifitng message for those hoping for a better life:

Ultimately, if you think about all the youth that everybody has mentioned here in Africa, if everybody is raising living standards to the point where everybody has got a car and everybody has got air conditioning, and everybody has got a big house, well, the planet will boil over -- unless we find new ways of producing energy.” - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-planet-will-boil-over-if-young-africans-are-allowed-cars-air-conditioning-big#sthash.SU6iNSnT.dpuf

Ultimately, if you think about all the youth that everybody has mentioned here in Africa, if everybody is raising living standards to the point where everybody has got a car and everybody has got air conditioning, and everybody has got a big house, well, the planet will boil over -- unless we find new ways of producing energy.” - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-planet-will-boil-over-if-young-afr...

 

President Barack Obama said at a town hall event in Johannesburg, South Africa, on Saturday that unless we find new way of producing energy "the planet will boil over" if people in Africa are allowed to attain air conditioning, automobiles and big houses. - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-planet-will-boil-over-if-young-africans-are-allowed-cars-air-conditioning-big#sthash.SU6iNSnT.dpuf

President Barack Obama said at a town hall event in Johannesburg, South Africa, on Saturday that unless we find new way of producing energy “the planet will boil over” if people in Africa are allowed to attain air conditioning, automobiles and big houses.

“Ultimately, if you think about all the youth that everybody has mentioned here in Africa, if everybody is raising living standards to the point where everybody has got a car and everybody has got air conditioning, and everybody has got a big house, well, the planet will boil over — unless we find new ways of producing energy.”

We got the good stuff but you can't have any. Isn't that the attitude usually hurled at those of us with a libertarian bent? Hey, if I have a choice between living in abject misery and improving my lot a little, you know what? Screw the planet -- boil away, baby.

Comments

Tim Zank
Tue, 07/02/2013 - 10:23am

I'm absolutely amazed at the certifiable bullsh*t this guy just "tosses" out at speeches, over and over again and no one seems to give a damn.

Joe
Tue, 07/02/2013 - 2:48pm

And speaking of certifiable bullsh*t....

10/7/2002, George W. Bush, President

"The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."

09/18/2002,  Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense (before Congress)

"We do know that the Iraqi regime has chemical and biological weapons. His regime has amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons -- including VX, sarin, cyclosarin and mustard gas. ... His regime has amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of biological weapons—including anthrax and botulism toxin, and possibly smallpox." 

11/14/2002, Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense

"I'm glad you asked. It has nothing to do with oil, literally nothing to do with oil."

03/27/2003, Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary

"There’s a lot of money to pay for this ... the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years…We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.”

05/01/2003, George W. Bush, President

"My fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."  Under the banner "Mission Accomplished."

06/29/2005, Dick Cheney, Vice President

I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.

Tim Zank
Tue, 07/02/2013 - 4:48pm

That's an interesting reply Joe. I offered an opinion on the remarks made by the guy currently in charge, the current President and your only defense of HIS remarks is to copy and paste quotes from someone else made 11 years ago? Is that supposed to some sort of "equivalence" defense? Like, "it's ok that he lies because somebody else lied to us 11 years ago"? 

Brilliant, just brilliant.  

Joe
Tue, 07/02/2013 - 5:33pm

Actually Tim, they both are liars. The point you overlooked was why do conservatives jump on a Democratic President and say nothing when a Republican does the same?  The same hypocrites that are so concerned about the national debt and government spending was saying nothing while Bush blew up the budget. Nothing wrong with having your convictions, just wonder why they are applied differently depending on which party holds the White House.

Rebecca Mallory
Tue, 07/02/2013 - 7:24pm

The amusement of Joe's responses continues.  The article discusses a climate speech in South Africa and Joe responds with Rumsfeld on Iraq.  Wow.

For a  point-by-point rebuttal of Obama's climate position, a link:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/obamas-global-warming-claims-demolished/#bs2tieYZltQ8RTQJ.99

Tim Zank
Wed, 07/03/2013 - 1:52pm

The point you seem unable to grasp is this, I made a simple observation (my opinion) that Barack Obama was lying in his speech a few days ago. Your reponse was not a rebuttal or a refutation of my claim, rather it was a deflection, an excuse of sorts, which would have to leave us believing you are in agreement (that Barack Obama was lying the other day) you simply don't care because other people lie also.

 

 

Joe
Wed, 07/03/2013 - 4:58pm

Tim,  did you not understand the first sentence I wrote? I said they were both liars. They are politicians aren't they?. If their lips are moving, they are lying. Not my point at all. Try to get your head around the bigger point and answer my question which is.... Why, when conseervative politicians lie do conservatives excuse it as in "it's ancient history" etc. but jump on Democrats when they lie?  Lie are just that regardless of who says them in my mind and I wonder why you didn't call out the previous administration the same way call out Obama? Are your values not consistant or is politics more important than values? Just asking.

Tim Zank
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 8:58am

You'll never win an argument obfuscating, changing the subject, and answering the question with a question.

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