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Opening Arguments

What's a retirement plan?

Welcome to the future, fellow baby boomers:

. . . working well into one's seventh decade is a scenario that has become -- seemingly overnight -- relatively commonplace. For millions of workers, retirement has been delayed for years; others say they may never retire. Thanks to the nation's massive asset meltdown -- sagging retirement accounts, plunging property values -- an enormous swath of the population has had to redefine their life path. Older folks who assumed they'd be retired by now are struggling with the need to work long after the passion (not to mention the brain and the body) has started to fade. And the result of all this turmoil is a little-noticed but profound shift in the workforce. Some academics say we may well be reverting to historical norms, returning to pre-New Deal conditions in which most Americans had to work until they, well, dropped. The number of working people over age 65 reached an all-time low in 2001, when just 13 percent held a job. Now that rate is rebounding, and fast; last summer, it hit 18 percent, a level not seen since Kennedy faced the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Of course, some of us might have more trouble than others working into our 70s, like, oh, those in newspapers:

In recent weeks, LinkedIn, the networking website, and the Council of Economic Advisers have reported that the press is “America’s fastest-shrinking industry”, measured by jobs lost; the Newspaper Association of America has shown that advertising sales have halved since 2005 and are now at 1984’s level; and the Pew Research Center has found that for every digital ad dollar they earned, they lost $7 in print ads.



Mon, 03/19/2012 - 9:53pm

Yep. Working until 70 at the job I enjoyed had been my plan.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:25pm

Soylent green, anyone?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:28pm

How about a News Sentinel series on demographics, aka the greying of America, and how contraception technology has taken us through the most rapid demographic phase shift documented by man?

And don't forget the synthetic estogen causing a demographic crisis in the food chain of our waterways.  Sterile streams and rivers, anyone?

Christopher Swing
Tue, 03/20/2012 - 9:36am

Leininger might be interested in reporting on nonsense, but I doubt the rest of the paper staff would go along with him. Especially the second one, as it's been debunked: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208125813.htm

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:32pm

Debunked?  Hardly.  One article from inside the contraception industry hardly debunks, Captain?  The ostensible student written article is credited as originating here: 

This manuscript is part of the Environmental Policy: Past, Present, and Future Special Issue.

, * Corresponding author phone: (510)986-8924; e-mail: woodrufft@obgyn.ucsf.edu.,

Note the obgyn in the email.  Hardly dispassionate, don't you have to agree?  (You will not, for reason evades you when you are losing an argument.)

Besides, what if not The Pill alone?  Is it still not estogen pollution that is threatening us?

And realize this ....  natural estogen is water soluable.  Synthetic is not.  Thus we have more to fear from any overabundance of synthetics.

Or are you, too, an apologist for synthetic hormones and steriods?  Planned Parenthood underwriting the troll fees this month?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:40pm

Chistopher X, so easy to trace your alleged "debunking" right back to Planned Parenthood's lair:  http://www.rhtp.org/about/board/default.asp


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:49pm

Here is the birth control pill celebrating the debunking of numerous academic reports over a 15 year period blaming the synthetic estogen on the Pill.



  Note they are having  a big sale today, Chris.  And note that gender bending fish really are taking place, now, more than ever, even though cows have been crapping in streams since time immemorial.

Yes, Kevin L should pull the pin on this politically explosive flash banger.



Tim Zank
Tue, 03/20/2012 - 3:43pm

Wow, that'll leave a mark.

Christopher Swing
Tue, 03/20/2012 - 4:23pm

Brown, linking something to Planned Parenthood doesn't disprove it. That's something insane people think.

You never had solid scientific evidence birth control was having any effect in the first place. You don't present any evidence to refute the actual science presented.

BTW, you might also want to have a look at Atrazine http://www.pbs.org/strangedays/episodes/troubledwaters/experts/frogs.html

Unless this ties into your previously diagnosed problems with authority.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 5:24pm

Christopher X, so we agree it is a problem, a huge problem, correct?

That is a big step right there.

As for causation, I think we can agree that their is likely many causes.

But that synthetic compounds should be given the most scrutiny, since they are almost never water soluable, correct?

And I think we can both agree that this problem is serious enought to merit Kevin L writing on it, even if that gets the corn farmers all wee weed up, right?

And/or big pharma.

And/or Planned Parenthood.

And/or the Sista hood.

Here is a great read from five years ago on the subject, note the concern and political correctness:


AND still the silence, due. most likely, to big pharma and feminism. 

We have come a long way baby -- transgenered bass and hermaphydite frogs.

Christopher Swing
Tue, 03/20/2012 - 5:44pm

Sure, have Kevin Leininger cover it, if you're his assigning editor now. Do we get to place bets on how much he skews it toward birth control being the problem/perpetuating that myth?


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 6:02pm

That myth?  So faced with a choice between (1) dealing with the biological problem of sterile waterwayss, fish, frogs, turles and disappearing snakes, and (2) risking that the birth control pill could be part of the problem, you chose to deny that (1) is real -- that myth you labeled it (read your post, that is what it says) rather than risk that birth control be found part of the problem?

The river you have the most trouble with is de Nile, Christopher X.  Must be a nice troll fee you get from PP, or you are their MVP among the ranks of the "useful idiots." 

Kevin, please let fly!!!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 6:13pm

Oh, Chris, since this thread once again proves, by your lights, that I "think like ...  insane people think" by arguing such cuckoo things as that Planned Parenthood would compromise the academic literature to keep raking in billions on The Pill (silly me) .......  You really should cut and paste this thread over at Notes of  a Captain Swing so your score of adoring fans can all see you getting the best of me here.  

Christopher Swing
Tue, 03/20/2012 - 6:17pm

I think you're just mad that I beat you to the punch on the estrogen thing, Brown. Unless you want to try and convince us an anti-contraception catholic anti-abortion guy wasn't going to go there.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 6:27pm

Oh that must be it, Chris X.   Now I know you will post this thread at your blogsquat to embarrass me. (NO, dont throes me in that briar patch, B'ther Fox)

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 6:46pm

Oh, and in case your ego creates nearsightedness, I beat you to the estogen punch, pal.  Like this  "And don't forget the synthetic estogen causing a demographic crisis in the food chain of our waterways.  Sterile streams and rivers, anyone?"  Your student shill article written but not peer reviewed by pro-abort minions being paid, most likely, by Planned Parenthood grants hardly debunks leading environmentalists the world over, and tried to equate synthetic, non water soluable estrogen to cow pies.  Absurd!